CharlieL wrote:Does anyone have a handle on how much these NJ commuters pay in income tax to the state and city of New York? An answer might clarify who would really lose if (when?) the tunnels were to fail? Similarly, how much these commuters pay in state and local taxes in New Jersey would help. And throw in lost federal revenue for one or both tunnels being out of service. Mostly what I am hearing is "the other guy loses more". But no numbers. And neither NJ nor NY, not to mention the feds, can afford a big hit.
Only New York City residents pay income tax in New York City. If you live on the Island or upstate you pay only New York State income tax. If you come in to the city from CT or NJ you pay non-resident income tax to NYS and nothing to NYC. The tax rate for NY hits 6% at around $20 - $30K and approaches 7% as you hit a million or two (depending on married vs single). The maximum rate of 8.82% doesn't kick in until a million ofr singles or 2 million for married filers. As these rates are generally equal to or greater than the rates charged by CT or NJ the non-residents effectively pay income tax on their wages only in NY. They pay their home state full freight on their investment income.
Obviously, as has been pointed out, they pay property taxes locally. Those taxes pay for local roads, police and schools. They don't pay for highways, prisons, universities, state parks (beaches), or courts. Those things need to be paid for out of tolls, gas taxes, and sales tax.
In 2017 there a little under 100,000 daily boardings on NJT at NY Penn. This is boardings, not passengers. I can't find a comparable number for the PABT but it looks like it's probably around 250,000 daily customers which I think means arrivals and departures so we'll cut that in half. That gives us 350,000 commuters plus the George Washington Bridge bus terminal, Academy and other private lines that pick up and drop off on the streets of midtown and downtown, drivers, and the ferries, and, oh yes, PATH. Let's round up to 400,000. Let's further assume an average annual salary of $85,000. I think it's probably higher. You can't afford to commute in for much less than that and of course the high end is much, much higher but since I'm going to use a flat tax rate of 6% and ignore the progressive nature of taxes it should even things out a little bit. 400,000 commuters * $85,000 average salary * 6% tax rate = $2,040,000,000 in taxes. That's 2 billion dollars flowing out of Trenton to Albany. Now, add in all the sales tax those commuters pay on their lunches and dinners and shopping. That's an enormous burden for NJ and an enormous windfall for NY. How many jobs could be "bought" for Weehawken, Jersey City, Newark and Paterson with those tax dollars? Even something as simple as telecommuting, so long as it was "for the convenience of the employer" and not the employee would shift the cash flow from Albany back down to Trenton. So, tell me again, how this was all about highways and petty politics and not about greater economics.