• Will They Ever Return?

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This forum will be for issues that don't belong specifically to one NYC area transit agency, but several. For instance, intra-MTA proposals or MTA-wide issues, which may involve both Metro-North Railroad (MNRR) and the Long Island Railroad (LIRR). Other intra-agency examples: through running such as the now discontinued MNRR-NJT Meadowlands special. Topics which only concern one operating agency should remain in their respective forums.

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  by daybeers
 
Yeah honestly it's silly to shop for a whole week instead of a quick trip for one or two days. Makes more sense when zoning allows for destinations to be much closer to home.
  by scratchyX1
 
You mean how most people in European and Latin countries shop?
  by sextant
 
Bus service has been free here in Vermont for the last 4 years. You can get to pretty much every corner of this state using local service . Ridership has only increased 8 percent while commuter buses from park and rides for white collar workers are half full if that to hubs in Burlington and Dartmouth health and college in Lebanon NH
  by andrewjw
 
How is that relevant to this thread?
  by STrRedWolf
 
I think this thread has played out.

In short:
  • Passengers will return to the trains, but slowly. It won't get fully back to pre-pandemic until 2025.
  • It won't be the same passengers, due to the pandemic forcing work-from-home. Some companies are finding benefits in that. Others are stubborn, or need staff to be in "office".
  • Transit schedules will reflect the load for a while.
  by Gilbert B Norman
 
As the originator of this topic, I wholly concur with Mr. Wolf's immediate thought.

With reported COVID cases at half that from a year earlier, and with nothing to suggest that the post 2021THANX Omicron "spike" is presently about to occur, we as society must accept that COVID "is something we live with" just as we do seasonal influenza.

There are readably and available safe, effective VAXs for each. While there are segments of the population, largely owing to religious convictions, that choose not to participate, but for the rest of us, life will go on although however changed.

The change largely is how we work if we are classified as a knowledge worker, as distinct from front line. Society as a whole, needs to accept that these changes are permanent and so for what we gather here to discuss - passenger railroad transportation and the adverse effect upon such, we have drawn the conclusion that "it's never coming back".

All parties in interest had best accept such.
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