• West Side Freight Line/St. John's Terminal

  • Discussion relating to the NYC and subsidiaries, up to 1968. Visit the NYCS Historical Society for more information.
Discussion relating to the NYC and subsidiaries, up to 1968. Visit the NYCS Historical Society for more information.

Moderator: Otto Vondrak

  by railfan365
 
Back when the High Line was a working railroad, was there any turn around provision at St. John's Terminal? If not, and after the line was cut off at Bank street, did they change directions by double ending the trains or did they just run the engine(s) around each train? Thanks.
  by Tommy Meehan
 
The tracks in the new elevated St. John's Park Terminal were stub-ended (and used mostly for LCL). Below is an old NYC photo taken in 1934 when the terminal was about to open.

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I think by the time the line was cut back to Bank Street in the 1960s (a 1962 NYC ETT I have shows the end-of-track was already Bank Street) I think train service was very sporadic. I don't know how they turned locomotives (they were all bi-directional) but they may have just shoved south when they had a load for a consignee with a facing point siding switch. If it was a trailing point switch they could've gone engine-first. Back in the 1960s operating a drill with an engine on each end was pretty rare.

Bank Street is where the line went "through" the Bell Labs building and from photos it appears to be double-track. It was also within yard limits.

Btw, when it was a working railroad line it was known as the 30th Street Branch or the West Side Freight Line. I never heard the name High Line until the preservation effort began. None of the former New York Central employees I've asked ever heard it called that either.
  by railfan365
 
Interesting bit of insight.

Meanwhile, it's a shame that the use of such a cleverly contrived urban line trailed off so badly.