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Discussion relating to the NYC and subsidiaries, up to 1968. Visit the NYCS Historical Society for more information.

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 #255355  by BaltOhio
 
The original NY, West Shore & Buffalo had its own equipment, of course, and its cars and locos were retained by the NYC and relettered "West Shore" as an NYC subsidiary. But all the survivoirs were relettered and renumbered in the NYC&HR series sometime in the 1890s. Since then there has been no West Shore equipment as such.

 #255373  by LCJ
 
And, um, no diesels...

 #255913  by scrag104
 
By the time diesels were a viable option for the NYC (and railroads in general) the West Shore Line had long been a NYC subsidiary. Diesels on the West Shore Line were lettered for NYC.

 #256621  by Dieter
 
That line saw a lot of PA's and FA's.

You're looking for a B&A or P&LE kind of identity parallel, and it didn't stick on this line. West Shore lasted as long after the take-over as New York and Northern did.

Dieter/

 #256722  by BaltOhio
 
Actually, the B&A was a different kind of case. NYC leased the B&A in 1900 and, as in most lease situations, absorbed its equipment onto its own roster and started relettering things "NYC&HR." But there was a backlash in Boston, which never cottoned to those crude usurpers from New York in the first place, and the insensitive actions of the NYC&HR-appointed B&A general manager aggravated the situation more. As a result, NYC went back to using the B&A name on equipment and property. But it had every legal right tro use "NYC" any time it wanted, and by the late 1940s NYC steam and diesel power were common on the B&A.

In 1935-36 NYC leased the Big Four, Michigan Central, and some smaller fry after many years of frustration in trying to merge these lines. (The minority stockholders wanted too much, and after the LS&MS merger NYC decided that the effort was just too expensive.) At that time, all Big Four, MC, T&OC, etc. power was relettered NYC and renumbered in the NYC series.

More similar to the P&LE was the Peoria & Eastern, which also kept its identity into Penn Central.
 #262738  by Matt Langworthy
 
Dieter wrote:That line saw a lot of PA's and FA's.
I've also seen pics of Fs, RS-3s, early Geeps and S-2s, as well.

When did passenger service end on the West Shore line?

 #262848  by TB Diamond
 
Trains 83 & 84, Syracuse-Wayneport, NY via the West Shore were discontinued in 1930. The West Shore Syracuse-Utica was converted to third rail electric early in the 1900s. Am not totally sure, but believe that this service ended in the early 1930s.
 #264143  by ChiefTroll
 
All passenger (commuter) service on West Shore (NYCRR River Division) was terminated on December 10, 1959. The service beyond West Haverstraw through Kingston to Albany had been discontinued in 1958.

Gordon Davids