• Washington to Baltimore: maglev or hyperloop?

  • General discussion of passenger rail proposals and systems not otherwise covered in the specific forums in this category, including high speed rail.
General discussion of passenger rail proposals and systems not otherwise covered in the specific forums in this category, including high speed rail.

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  by STrRedWolf
 
CarterB wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:34 pm Bring back the WB&A !!!
Heh... I wouldn't mind the yard coming back to Odenton and a line going back down to Annapolis. Problem is, getting it on the NEC now and there's a rail-to-trail built on it east of Odenton. :(
  by scratchyX1
 
CarterB wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:34 pm Bring back the WB&A !!!
It's pretty much the same alignment.
Since musk and maglev want the same ROW, only one solution.
Pay Per view match between musk, and someone from the Maglev.

So, it'll be Wish.com ironman vrs a ninja.

Seriously, if there was a demand, it may be possible for a line to Annapolis. I don't think there is even a bus to Odenton, now, So I doubt there is demand.
  by STrRedWolf
 
scratchyX1 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:33 am Seriously, if there was a demand, it may be possible for a line to Annapolis. I don't think there is even a bus to Odenton, now, So I doubt there is demand.
Nah, not from Odenton. Baltimore, though? Yes. The 210 and 215 commuter buses are running. There's been some demand in the past and they're running a few buses now.
  by scratchyX1
 
STrRedWolf wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:49 pm
scratchyX1 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:33 am Seriously, if there was a demand, it may be possible for a line to Annapolis. I don't think there is even a bus to Odenton, now, So I doubt there is demand.
Nah, not from Odenton. Baltimore, though? Yes. The 210 and 215 commuter buses are running. There's been some demand in the past and they're running a few buses now.
I thought those were canceled, due to covid? The question is, is there enough demand for a dedicated ROW transit vehicle, that can maintain average speed of 50mph?
  by STrRedWolf
 
scratchyX1 wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:42 pm
STrRedWolf wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:49 pm
scratchyX1 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:33 am Seriously, if there was a demand, it may be possible for a line to Annapolis. I don't think there is even a bus to Odenton, now, So I doubt there is demand.
Nah, not from Odenton. Baltimore, though? Yes. The 210 and 215 commuter buses are running. There's been some demand in the past and they're running a few buses now.
I thought those were canceled, due to covid? The question is, is there enough demand for a dedicated ROW transit vehicle, that can maintain average speed of 50mph?
Nope. Commuter buses are not express buses. They’re run by MARC — the actual department in MTA Maryland is named literally “MARC and Commuter Bus”. The bus lines are contracted out. Like MARC, they are on the S schedule.
  by scratchyX1
 
scratchyX1 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:33 am Seriously, if there was a demand, it may be possible for a line to Annapolis. I don't think there is even a bus to Odenton, now, So I doubt there is demand.
Nah, not from Odenton. Baltimore, though? Yes. The 210 and 215 commuter buses are running. There's been some demand in the past and they're running a few buses now.
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I thought those were canceled, due to covid? The question is, is there enough demand for a dedicated ROW transit vehicle, that can maintain average speed of 50mph?
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Nope. Commuter buses are not express buses. They’re run by MARC — the actual department in MTA Maryland is named literally “MARC and Commuter Bus”. The bus lines are contracted out. Like MARC, they are on the S schedule.
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Oh, I thought that they were cancelled when the APG bus was.
Looking at the service map
https://s3.amazonaws.com/mta-website-st ... 2_2020.pdf
I do wonder, what commuter bus routes would be better served as private ROW transit solutions?
Is there enough between Annapolis and Baltimore? (along the b&a)?
Route that seem to have the demand,
Southern Maryland cities to DC.
(I know light rail is what's getting pushed, I wonder if it may reach capacity that full on Metro rail may be a better long term solution)
Nap town to DC (Orange line along 50, for most of it)
Columbia to Silver Spring (sorry , the watered down BRT Flash In the Pan doesn't count)
Monocacy to Rockville (which is is where a privates monorail is being studied)
Sorry , but. the Maglev (and hyper loop) need to have much better transit connections (and those systems being well maintained) to be viable. and it ain't.
  by west point
 
Forget the 2 proposals. Take the state funds and straighten and put in as much as 3 / 4 main track Baltimore = WASH that those funds can do. Then restore the rail line to Annapolis and have it wye onto the NEC. That would provide maybe a couple MARC trains to ANN. Line could be used for special Naval academy functions both in and out. This would really improve the NEC . It gives national access to Annapolis that hyper loop / Maglev can never do.

Lack of national access is a non starter as fa as I can see.
  by amtrakowitz
 
kitchin wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:45 pm Between the two, I'm betting on the Superconducting Maglev Project, with a nominal completion date of 2023 or so, half funded by Central Japan Railway. Elon Musk has mapped out a Boring Company route, but I wonder how likely that is.
The answer, obviously, is neither.

Also, Musk had better ditch the Boring company in favor of an Exciting one.
  by STrRedWolf
 
amtrakowitz wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:18 pm The answer, obviously, is neither.

Also, Musk had better ditch the Boring company in favor of an Exciting one.
The exciting one is named "SpaceX". He owns both.