• Wabash in Buffalo

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  by Pensyfan19
 
Does anyone happen to know if the Wabash ever ran passenger service to Buffalo NY? If they did, which terminal did they use and what were their operations? I saw a route listed for the Wabash on Wikipedia for Chicago Dearborn station that listed Chicago to Buffalo when it used to be Chicago to Toledo, which made me curious about their operations via Ontario to Buffalo. According to the 1959 timetable, Buffalo is listed as a station stop but is not included on any scheduled train.
  by edbear
 
My August 1909 Official Guide says there was WAS passenger service across Ontario between Buffalo and Detroit. The service included those roads which would be considered secondary in the Boston/New York to Chicago market. Like Boston & Maine to Rotterdam Jct.-West Shore to Buffalo-Wabash beyond. Or LV NY-Buffalo, then WAB. Or DL&W to Buffalo and WAB (DL&W also worked with NKP). The index says the WAB and ERIE were in the same station and the index says that station was adjacent to the NYC&HR/MC/LS&MS station. The WAB got its trackage rights on the Grand Trunk across Ontario most likely because Charles M. Hay, GT President (died in sinking of Titanic) was recruited off the Wabash. In 1909 those Wabash passenger trains had a full complement of sleepers and dining service.
  by Engineer Spike
 
Ed, wasn't the Wabash the western connection of the B&M (Fitchburg) trains via West Shore at Buffalo?
  by S1f3432
 
Wabash had trackage rights on CN's Cayuga and Chatham Subdivisions across southern Ontario
via St. Thomas and Simco. Mid 50's employee timetable pages reprinted in Ian Wilsons books
"Steam Through London" and "Steam Echoes of Hamilton" detailing CNR operations at the end
of the steam era show that by the mid 50's the only passenger service was a couple of mixed trains
between Jarvis and St.Thomas and through Toronto-London-Windsor trains which entered/left
the line at Glencoe. The timetable does list Wabash 4th class manifest freight trains in each direction.
CNR through passenger service between Fort Erie and Windsor as well as most freight trains used
parallel lines via Hamilton or Paris Jct. and London.