LIC Coach Yard to be decked over with high risers...

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LIC Coach Yard to be decked over with high risers...

Post by DogBert » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:12 am

To the surprise of no one who has been following real estate developers obsession with decking over NYC rail yards, I present you with this latest plan: https://licpost.com/tf-cornerstone-puts ... yside-yard" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

While they're at it, they should rebuild the 1800s era LIRR ferry terminal...

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Re: LIC Coach Yard to be decked over with high rises...

Post by jlr3266 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:00 pm

Well, developers have certainly used up all the space in the area.

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Re: LIC Coach Yard to be decked over with high rises...

Post by Absolute-Limited Advance-Approach » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:51 pm

Hopefully the MTA gets money to fully electrify the yard. I'd hate to think of having all of those Diesel fumes bouncing back down on everyone.

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Re: LIC Coach Yard to be decked over with high risers...

Post by ConstanceR46 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:04 pm

I don't think it can be juiced up; it's the terminal for many diesel services.

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Re: LIC Coach Yard to be decked over with high risers...

Post by ADL6009 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:04 pm

The headline on this post is misleading, currently there are NO PLANS to cover LIC yard. This is simply an idea by some real estate company. That will most likely never happen.

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Re: LIC Coach Yard to be decked over with high risers...

Post by Rockingham Racer » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:04 am

ConstanceR46 wrote:I don't think it can be juiced up; it's the terminal for many diesel services.
What's to prevent diesels from running under catenary? NS does it all the time south of Wilmington, DE off the Port Road Branch and on to Baltimore, as one example. Perhaps you are inferring a ventilation issue? Chicago Union Station--all diesels--is covered over, so I assume there is a proper way to ventilate.

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Re: LIC Coach Yard to be decked over with high risers...

Post by BAR » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:43 am

This is third rail territory not catenary.

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Re: LIC Coach Yard to be decked over with high risers...

Post by ExCon90 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:45 pm

I got the impression that ConstanceR46 was concerned about ventilation problems if the yard were roofed over, but if that's not going to happen so much the better.

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Re: LIC Coach Yard to be decked over with high risers...

Post by R36 Combine Coach » Wed May 01, 2019 12:49 am

Rockingham Racer wrote:
ConstanceR46 wrote:I don't think it can be juiced up; it's the terminal for many diesel services.
What's to prevent diesels from running under catenary? NS does it all the time south of Wilmington, DE off the Port Road Branch and on to Baltimore, as one example. Perhaps you are inferring a ventilation issue? Chicago Union Station--all diesels--is covered over, so I assume there is a proper way to ventilate.
Also Back Bay and 30th Street Lower Level.
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Re: LIC Coach Yard to be decked over with high risers...

Post by troffey » Wed May 01, 2019 3:37 pm

I would hesitate to use Back Bay as a current example of how to properly ventilate for diesel operations. The MBTA is in the process of spending three million to improve the notoriously bad ventilation. Information can be found at https://www.mbta.com/projects/back-bay- ... provements" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; or https://twitter.com/MBTA/status/1120767 ... 32/photo/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; if you're interested in the logisitics of it.

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Re: LIC Coach Yard to be decked over with high risers...

Post by ConstanceR46 » Wed May 01, 2019 10:42 pm

The trains that run into LIC are diesel. Electrification is a non-option because for the foreseeable future these trains will be straight diesel. Overhead wouldn't help as the LIRR hasn't ran wires for around 70 years and probably won't ever.

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Re: LIC Coach Yard to be decked over with high risers...

Post by daybeers » Wed May 08, 2019 1:44 pm

No no no! Back Bay is a cesspool of cancer for the tens of thousands of commuters who pass through there every day! This cannot happen, at least without proper ventilation which will probably be a significant portion of the project cost if this is ever done.

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Re: LIC Coach Yard to be decked over with high risers...

Post by Backshophoss » Wed May 08, 2019 5:59 pm

The plan was to deck over Yard A and Sunnyside,NOT LIC.
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Re: LIC Coach Yard to be decked over with high risers...

Post by freightguy » Wed May 08, 2019 7:39 pm

If they deck it over with a parking garage I’ll be through the roof. They’ll be some parking over there now in the LIC/ Hunterspoint Avenue area.
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Re: LIC Coach Yard to be decked over with high risers...

Post by NIMBYkiller » Tue May 21, 2019 12:32 pm

Backshophoss, take a look at the link from the OP. This is a different project talking about decking over LIC.

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