Septa push pull overview

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mcgrath618
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by mcgrath618 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:38 pm

CNJGeep wrote:No push pulls to Trenton, Delaware still gets one in the AM and the PM
I thought SEPTA ran one AEM to Trenton in the PM rush, but I heard they pulled some out so I may be late.
I'm sure that when we get our sprinters we'll end up seeing some more on both lines, since we'll have 5 more engines to work with.
Related, do you guys think they'll pull those Comet I cars out of storage and use them with an ACS-64? We have a good amount of Comet IIs and IIIs but definitely not enough for 13 engines. We have something like 40-50 of them, not counting the Is, right?
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by R3 Passenger » Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:46 pm

mcgrath618 wrote:I thought SEPTA ran one AEM to Trenton in the PM rush, but I heard they pulled some out so I may be late.
The PP set on the Trenton Line used to be 9745 in the PM, and 9724 in the AM. Those were pulled effective the January 14 schedule.
mcgrath618 wrote:I'm sure that when we get our sprinters we'll end up seeing some more on both lines, since we'll have 5 more engines to work with.
It's possible.
mcgrath618 wrote:Related, do you guys think they'll pull those Comet I cars out of storage and use them with an ACS-64?
Nope. Comet I cars are done.
mcgrath618 wrote:We have a good amount of Comet IIs and IIIs but definitely not enough for 13 engines. We have something like 40-50 of them, not counting the Is, right?
Definitely not enough, but that is why we are getting 45 new multilevel cars.

And CNJGeep, thank you for pointing out that oversight. I stand corrected.
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by Backshophoss » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:01 pm

In the current issue(March '18) of "Railfan & Railroad" starting on pg 39 is a article "Farewell to Philly's Toasters".
Worth reading' :wink:
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by train2 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:32 am

No asking about Amtrak in reference to the push pulls.
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by njt/mnrrbuff » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:50 am

9563 is a local and it only goes as far as Haverford. I don't think push pull sets are used.
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by zebrasepta » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:56 pm

train2 wrote:No asking about Amtrak in reference to the push pulls.
I think the only push-pull service Amtrak has is the Keystone Corridor and I think they got one in California too
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by Backshophoss » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:08 pm

Amtrak's Keystone corridor,and the NHV-Springfield line are Push-Pull operations
The Amtrak-Ca ops are also Push-Pull for the Surfliner(San Diego) services,and the Capital Corridor(Sacramento-Oakland) services.
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by BuddCar711 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:09 am

Will the cab cars ever get redone?
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by mcgrath618 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:45 am

BuddCar711 wrote:Will the cab cars ever get redone?
I would assume that they will be redone when they get their PTC installed (that is, if they haven't already).
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by silverliner266 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:42 am

Backshophoss wrote:Amtrak's Keystone corridor,and the NHV-Springfield line are Push-Pull operations
The Amtrak-Ca ops are also Push-Pull for the Surfliner(San Diego) services,and the Capital Corridor(Sacramento-Oakland) services.
I believe the Downeaster and Hiawatha are push-pull as well. The Hiawatha runs with converted F-40 "cabbage" units.
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by CNJGeep » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:56 pm

BuddCar711 wrote:Will the cab cars ever get redone?
What do you mean, "redone?" The fancy new interiors?
If so, 2401 and 2408 have been done for ages now. Allegedly the other cab cars will go once the three trailers that were left are done (I believe the final one is going through the program now.)
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by ExCon90 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:57 pm

silverliner266 wrote:I believe the Downeaster and Hiawatha are push-pull as well. The Hiawatha runs with converted F-40 "cabbage" units.
That's correct. I forgot about them.
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by NorthPennLimited » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:36 pm

Hopefully, we get push pull equipment back on 6595, or 5711 in the mornings and on the North Wales Express in the evenings. We could use the extra seats.

The volume of passengers headed towards Lansdale / Doylestown at 5pm is so great, we have 3 trains within 10 minutes headed north from center city. The first 2 are express, and the third is a local to Lansdale.
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by mcgrath618 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:48 pm

I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say that while the double decker trains are intended only for the NEC, Keystone Corridor, and West Trenton lines, the sprinters will be paired with Comet IIs and IIIs on the Lansdale/Norristown and Media/Elwyn (by that time Media/Wawa) lines.
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Re: Septa push pull overview

Post by glennk419 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:20 pm

mcgrath618 wrote:I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say that while the double decker trains are intended only for the NEC, Keystone Corridor, and West Trenton lines, the sprinters will be paired with Comet IIs and IIIs on the Lansdale/Norristown and Media/Elwyn (by that time Media/Wawa) lines.
The Warminster line is also at capacity and hopefully with the Jenkintown substation being online and adding capacity on this side of the railroad, we'll see some more PP's.
There are actually two PP's back on the West Trenton line right now.
Glenn
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