SP&S C430's

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SP&S C430's

Post by Tadman »

I noticed today in Don Balls "Portrait of the Rails" book that the SP&S C430's have five hoses on each side of the coupler, for a total of ten. Most other locomotives appear to have three on the engineer side and one on the other. Was the SP&S full of hot air? (sorry, couldn't resist...)
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SP&S C430's?

Post by amtrakhogger »

IIRC the SP&S did not have C430's. The only roads to roster C430's
were the New York Central, Reading, Green Bay and Western and
the Seaboard Coast LIne. The SCL purchased the 3 demonstrators from Alco.
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Post by brokenrail »

The SP&S had C424, C425 and C636 road engines and two C415 switchers.

Today we have three hoses on each side of the brake pipe hose that are: (from the outside) independent, actuating and main reservoir air. They are duplicated on each side. You only need to couple one of each hose, not all six and that is why there are some hoses missing on some units.

The older units had five hoses on each side which added forward and rear sanding and are now included in the electrical MU cable.

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Post by Tadman »

The units in question are indeed C636 - the axle count was not visible, just the outboard truck springs (head-on shot) characteristic of the hi-ad avilable on the 430. I should have looked closer. Cross ref'ing #335 to the available SP&S rosters shows it is a six-axle unit.
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Re: SP&S C430's

Post by Engineer Spike »

I believe that unlike the other MU hoses, both sand hoses had to be coupled. Most engines had from inside to outside; main reservoir, actuating, independent apply and release, and 1 sand hose. The hose on one side of the locomotive was for forward, the one on the other side was for reverse sand. Some units had a sand hose on both sides. This is likely the case on the SP&S units. Modern units have the sand through the jumper, as has been stated.

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