ryan92084 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:09 pmI buy them on the Key card so I do not have the issue with them not being in stock.rcthompson04 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:17 pm This is not new for the reasons you noted. An interesting aspect of Key is that it encourages me to use non-Regional Rail services more when I don't purchase a pass for a month. Being out in Zone 4 and in months where I use Regional Rail less than 14 times, I set the card up to load an Independence Pass daily and use it. Before I would have used Regional Rail tickets and never used other SEPTA services. I am their ideal Regional Rail user so I admit I am far from a representative sample.The independence pass snafu and subsequent rule changes have definitely taken over the zone 4 fares assuming they can be kept in stock.