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 #1524070  by MBTA1052
 
I wonder why 3906 hasn’t showed up yet at Riverside yet they seemed to skip that number for some reason.
 #1524704  by MBTA DMA
 
According to the inventory, 3912 was delivered last month and finally shows 3913 early this month. Remaining type 9 cars will be delivered throughout early 2020.
 #1524726  by Arlington
 
Did they ultimately create new space somewhere to hold this expanded fleet of type 9 plus all the other type 7 back from overhaul?
 #1524742  by typesix
 
Should have enough room for them without needing to create new space. In the early 2000s, there were 7s, 8s, and LRVs on the Green.
 #1525108  by jonnhrr
 
Also I believe new storage space will be added as part of the GLX (Green Line extension to Somerville) project.
 #1525125  by jwhite07
 
The combined Type 7 and Type 8 fleets were supposed to number 220 cars. 17 Type 7s have been wrecked through the years and the Type 8 order cut from 100 cars to 95, in addition to one Type 8 officially retired. Assuming every one of the remaining Type 8s that are out of service can be repaired and returned to operation (very highly unlikely, especially severely damaged 3847), even the addition of the 24 Type 9s will result in 221 cars, one more than the T should have had if the Type 7 and 8 fleets had survived intact through the years. One wonders if the 7 and 8 fleet had remained intact would it have even been deemed necessary to spend $100+ million on the Type 9s?
 #1528074  by R36 Combine Coach
 
jwhite07 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:50 pmThe combined Type 7 and Type 8 fleets were supposed to number 220 cars. 17 Type 7s have been wrecked through the years and the Type 8 order cut from 100 cars to 95, in addition to one Type 8 officially retired. Assuming every one of the remaining Type 8s that are out of service can be repaired and returned to operation (very highly unlikely, especially severely damaged 3847), even the addition of the 24 Type 9s will result in 221 cars.
I know (from NETransit) that the 100 car Breda order was cut back to 85, then 10 additional cars (3885-3894) were assembled and delivered in 2007 using leftover shells for a final order of 95 (+ five spare shells). Have any of the leftover shells been used for wreck rebuilds yet and where are they stored?
 #1528106  by jwhite07
 
Also according to NETransit, 3807 was resurrected from the carbody parts stockpile, which at last report was on the property of Orient Heights Carhouse. Latest Googular Mappage imagery shows ten of what looks like white plastic shrink-wrapped shapes of Type 8 A or B sections and five center sections there... presumably including both never used pieces parts as well as the damaged remnants of 3807? Boots on the ground would confirm, but mine aren't authorized.
 #1528115  by R36 Combine Coach
 
jwhite07 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:33 pmTen of what looks like white plastic shrink-wrapped shapes of Type 8 A or B sections and five center sections there... presumably including both never used pieces parts as well as the damaged remnants of 3807? Boots on the ground would confirm, but mine aren't authorized.
They are clearly visible publicly from the Orient Heights commuter lot. Apparently moved there sometime in 2016. Appears to be five complete shells: 10 A/Bs and five center sections.
 #1530081  by The EGE
 
Here's what the Type 8 shells look like from the fence of the parking lot:
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 #1530544  by smsullivan11
 
Not to take this even more off track, but why did the T stash these at Orient Heights of all places and why do they even have them just sitting around. Seems weird to have semi-completed shells sitting and waiting in salty air for a day that never comes.
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