Government Shutdown

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Government Shutdown

Post by daybeers » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:20 am

Hi all! Not living in D.C. anymore, I'm out of touch with how the public transportation network in D.C. is fairing with this lengthy government shutdown. Is there a noticeable drop in ridership, or not so much? Can a difference be seen more on commuter railroads or WMATA?

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Re: Government Shutdown

Post by mtuandrew » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:25 pm

Cold :P

It’s less busy than normal, but not astoundingly so - still plenty of support staff, or people funded by the 2018 resolutions, or essential staff, or military. Still a fair number of tourists too, astoundingly.

Haven’t ridden VRE recently so I can’t compare with WMATA.

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Re: Government Shutdown

Post by STrRedWolf » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:43 pm

On the MARC side, it's a bit less (only 25% shutdown) but not much. Enough to keep the MARC on the regular schedule... but some of the shops that depend on that traffic are struggling. The at-station coffee shop in Odenton (White Rabbit, in the historic Odenton Heritage Preservation Society Museum) had to cut the hours down so that they are only open between 4am and 7-8am, with no afternoon hours. Business has slowed to a crawl until the 7am hour today, but when you get maybe 10 people a day when you average 50 or more? That's not good.
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Re: Government Shutdown

Post by ChesterValley » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:56 pm

I did find an article online about it if this helps, https://www.masstransitmag.com/manageme ... n-per-week
The Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (WMATA) is losing an average of $400,000 each weekday during the government shutdown. Using that figure, translates into $2 million per week in lost fare and parking revenue for a total of more than $7 million since the partial shutdown began.

In comparison, a 16-day shutdown in 2013 is reported to have cost the agency $5.5 million in lost revenue.
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Re: Government Shutdown

Post by davinp » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:48 am

About 70% of VRE riders are federal workers.
VRE says ridership is down 25% during the government shutdown which means revenue could drop by 25% if the shutdown continues
I have noticed more empty seats then before the shutdown

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Re: Government Shutdown

Post by STrRedWolf » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:36 pm

The president has said he's got a temporary funding agreement.

Things should get back to normal for a few weeks.
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Re: Government Shutdown

Post by mtuandrew » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:32 am

System is much busier today with the first full day of operations. Standing room only & packed on YL from Pentagon to L’Enfant where there had been a slight chance of getting a seat last week; my usual bus to Pentagon had about a quarter more people on it too.

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Re: Government Shutdown

Post by danib62 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:19 pm

I think the moral of the story is WMATA needs to push passes harder. Monthly passes would somewhat shield them from fluctuations in revenue like this.
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