Metro to install vinyl wrapping on 3K/6K, look more like 7Ks

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Re: Metro to install vinyl wrapping on 3K/6K, look more like

Post by Sand Box John » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:58 pm

"MACTRAXX"
To me a "wrap" is something meant to be temporary - a clear coat to protect the aluminum body
makes good sense and would further protect the car from deterioration or vandalism (graffiti for
one) and perhaps extend a car's life span.


Aluminum needs no coating to protect it from deterioration, It naturally forms an oxide coating to protect itself in much the same way red metals do.

The wraps are a low cost method that eliminates the use of environmentally unfriendly detergents and solvents to keep the exterior of the aluminum car bodies brightly clean. Those detergents and solvents removed the dirt and grime not the naturally formed oxide coating.
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Re: Metro to install vinyl wrapping on 3K/6K, look more like

Post by smallfire85 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:43 pm

From what I remember, Metro would have had to treat the dirty water if they wanted to use detergents to wash the railcars. That means a treatment plant at each wash location that would have to comply with the local jurisdiction's environmental effluent codes. That becomes expensive and cumbersome to manage.

The wraps are only for the sides of the cars; the ends and roofs are not covered. I remember reading a while back in one of Metro's long term plans to change the livery of the legacy fleet to reflect that of the 7000 series cars.

I remember some people giving the wraps a lifetime of few months, max. We're still in that window, but the wraps appear to be holding up well.

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Re: Metro to install vinyl wrapping on 3K/6K, look more like

Post by Sand Box John » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:52 am

"smallfire85"
I remember some people giving the wraps a lifetime of few months, max. We're still in that window, but the wraps appear to be holding up well.


There are wraps and then there are wraps. The new look vinyl wraps on the rail cars is basically the same as the livery on the Metrobus fleet that also is done using vinyl. Advertising wraps typically include inkjet printed artwork that will degrade when exposed to weather and sunlight.
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Re: Metro to install vinyl wrapping on 3K/6K, look more like

Post by mtuandrew » Fri May 25, 2018 6:09 pm

Caught wrapped pair 3070-71 today at WFC Junction, and I think I’m getting used to all-silver liveries. (Much more so than the multicolored door advertisements.)

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Re: Metro to install vinyl wrapping on 3K/6K, look more like

Post by Robert Paniagua » Tue May 29, 2018 6:41 am

On my last trip to DC in April, I haven't seen any new repaited (wrapped) units but when I go there during this summer I hope to catch some new repainted cars
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Re: Metro to install vinyl wrapping on 3K/6K, look more like

Post by Chris Brown » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:20 am

I still don't see these wrapped cars very often. Saw two last week at Stadium-Armory.

When they are expected to complete wrapping all the cars?

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Re: Metro to install vinyl wrapping on 3K/6K, look more like

Post by KTHW » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:53 am

Caught a 6 car 3000 series Silver Line train at Rosslyn this morning. First time I had seen more than two of the old cars wrapped in Vinyl (Last 4 were). Of note cars 3070 and 3071 had Vinyl wrapping and all New Blue seats, but cars 3096 and 3097 only had the wrapping. Are cars just refitted as they undergo repairs or inspections in the yards?

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Re: Metro to install vinyl wrapping on 3K/6K, look more like

Post by mtuandrew » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:30 pm

KTHW wrote:Are cars just refitted as they undergo repairs or inspections in the yards?
Was wondering that myself. Guessing yes, or that this is a pilot project only and depends on them testing the wraps a while.

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Re: Metro to install vinyl wrapping on 3K/6K, look more like

Post by davinp » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:17 am

Also, has anyone noticed that Metro has put the car number on the roof of the railcar - all series old and new.

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Post by JDC » Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:45 pm

davinp wrote:Also, has anyone noticed that Metro has put the car number on the roof of the railcar - all series old and new.
I've noticed this more and more, along with the number of the car being changed from black decals on metal to white numbers on black background.
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Re: Metro to install vinyl wrapping on 3K/6K, look more like

Post by R36 Combine Coach » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:18 am

MACTRAXX wrote:Another comparison to mention will be to the CTA's Budd-built 2600 car fleet - which originally had a distinct color scheme when they were new. In more recent years the colors were removed from their stainless steel car bodies leaving only one CTA logo on each side.
This was during the Alstom rebuild, 1999-2002. The 2600s now appear as 3200s without corrugations.
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Re: Metro to install vinyl wrapping on 3K/6K, look more like

Post by KTHW » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:52 am

Rode on my first 8 car all vinyl 3000 series train today. Anyone know WMATA’s progress on retrofitting the 3k and 6k cars? I feel like I’m seeing a lot more of them.

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Re: Metro to install vinyl wrapping on 3K/6K, look more like

Post by jcepler1 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:17 am

Funny, I was going to say the opposite- I haven't seen any of these trains in awhile, I thought that they had stopped.

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Re: Metro to install vinyl wrapping on 3K/6K, look more like

Post by YOLO » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:39 pm

Seems like they're wrapping up the 3Ks. I haven't seen any wrapped 6Ks besides 6180-6181

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Re: Metro to install vinyl wrapping on 3K/6K, look more like

Post by mtuandrew » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:22 pm

I couldn’t find the 2-3k thread but wanted to say, I’m sitting in 3049 and it has the new resilient flooring from front to back. Didn’t know that WMATA was going to replace their carpet!

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