CN purchase of CSX Massena Line

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Engineer Spike
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CN purchase of CSX Massena Line

Post by Engineer Spike » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:24 pm

It has been announced that with the CSX downsizing that the line from Syracuse into Quebec will be sold to CN.I wanted to hear what ou guys think the strategic importance of this line will be for CN. Obviously the line will connect to CSX in Syracuse. Has there been any word as to CN gaining a share.in the operation of DeWitt Yard/ Will interchange be permitted with the Susquehanna?

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Re: CN purchase of CSX Massena Line

Post by Shortline614 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:01 pm

The sale of the Massena Line to Canadian National is clearly connected to the joint CSX-CN intermodal services that were announced a few weeks ago. CN buying the line means that they are going to get a greater share of the line haul for this traffic then they otherwise would have gotten. CN also wants to grow their traffic, especially in Eastern Canada, where their mainline is underused. By acquiring the Massena Line, it gives CN more control over what traffic from the Eastern US is put on it's rails in Eastern Canada.

The sale only goes as far south as Woodard, New York so that CSX can still access their Oswego Line without the use of trackage rights, and to retain the industry directly north of Syracuse. The deal is almost certin to include trackge rights to the CSX yard in East Syracuse, but doesn't include any way to directly interchange with the NYS&W. This is done so that CSX can solely decide what is put on and off CN at Syracuse.

It is possible that in the upcoming STB review, that the Susie-Q can force in a provision that allows it to interchange with CN, but I don't see that as likely, considering that CSX owns 40% of the stock in the NYS&W.
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Re: CN purchase of CSX Massena Line

Post by Shortline614 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:17 pm

https://www.stb.gov/Filings/all.nsf/WEB ... enDocument

The STB docket for CN to acquire the Massena Line has been filed. Interestingly enough, the CN subsidiary that will "officially" take over the lines is the Bessemer & Lake Erie.
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Re: CN purchase of CSX Massena Line

Post by Shortline614 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:50 pm

After reading through the document, the sale is much larger than orginally thought. Many were saying that CSX would sell their line north of the Buckley Road overpass, so that they would still have access to the line to Oswego. However, the line to Oswego is included in the sale. CSX is selling everything north of the wye in downtown Syracuse. CN will have trackage rights to both CSX yards in Syracuse. Belle Isle and DeWitt, but won't be allowed to interchange with the NYS&W or the Finger Lakes railway.
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Re: CN purchase of CSX Massena Line

Post by lvrr325 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:43 am

CN/B&LE ownership is to begin at CSX QM 3.0, which is one mile north of QC 291, along Onondaga Lake south of the Onondaga Lake Parkway bridge. Milepost numbering on this line reflects the original RW&O markers which began in downtown Syracuse.

This effectively gives CN access to all customers and local work on the line.

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