Head-on collision in Amarillo, TX

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Re: Head-on collision in Amarillo, TX

Post by scoostraw » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:59 am

sd80mac wrote:I would say that the female was on the Westbound.
Is this a guess? Or do you know?

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Re: Head-on collision in Amarillo, TX

Post by sd80mac » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:16 pm

scoostraw wrote:
sd80mac wrote:I would say that the female was on the Westbound.
Is this a guess? Or do you know?
2 men were on eastbound. Didn't you read the reports?

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Re: Head-on collision in Amarillo, TX

Post by scoostraw » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:35 pm

I don't remember reading that in the preliminary report.

(Can you show us where it says that?)

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Re: Head-on collision in Amarillo, TX

Post by Mikejf » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:56 pm

Copied from the NTSB report, which a link was provided on page 4 of this thread.
Three crew members died in the accident—the engineer and conductor on the eastbound train and the conductor on the westbound train. The engineer of the westbound train jumped from the train before impact and survived with injuries.

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Re: Head-on collision in Amarillo, TX

Post by scoostraw » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:27 pm

Thanks. Yes I read that.

How are you able to determine from that quote which train the female crew member was on?

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Re: Head-on collision in Amarillo, TX

Post by sd80mac » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:31 pm

Mikejf wrote:Copied from the NTSB report, which a link was provided on page 4 of this thread.
Three crew members died in the accident—the engineer and conductor on the eastbound train and the conductor on the westbound train. The engineer of the westbound train jumped from the train before impact and survived with injuries.

Read the WHOLE thing. you will figure it out. The answer is there.

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Re: Head-on collision in Amarillo, TX

Post by scoostraw » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:31 pm

I am not seeing it. The "whole thing" is 2 pages.

Unless there is some additional info elsewhere, I am not finding it.

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Re: Head-on collision in Amarillo, TX

Post by butts260 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:50 pm

Looking at Figure 1. Derailment site of The Preliminary Report DCA16FR008 now confuses me. If west is in the upper left and east in the lower right, then the divided highway "above" or "north" of the tracks cannot be route U.S. 60, which is south of the tracks on Google Maps. Help me out!

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Re: Head-on collision in Amarillo, TX

Post by sd80mac » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:27 am

scoostraw wrote:I am not seeing it. The "whole thing" is 2 pages.

Unless there is some additional info elsewhere, I am not finding it.
sorry... its not in that report. I thought its in that report. but it's in another one.. And it has been circulated all over media.

Sorry for crappy photo, obtained from someone in Facebook.

Smith had 39 years. Owens had been working since 1994. (I hope that I got the names right)
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Re: Head-on collision in Amarillo, TX

Post by Gilbert B Norman » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:24 am

Where has it been reported which of the three employees' remains, C&E of the EB or C of the WB, have not been recovered?

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Re: Head-on collision in Amarillo, TX

Post by JimBoylan » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:00 am

This is beginning to remind me of a ConRail drawbridge wreck in Cleveland, O. where 1 body couldn't be found because he had been left behind at the reporting point for a nap.

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Re: Head-on collision in Amarillo, TX

Post by scoostraw » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:14 am

Thanks SD80.

The woman's name was Lara Taylor. And it appears that she was the conductor on the westbound. It's too bad she didn't make it. Her engineer jumped, and as she was an amateur athlete you would think she might have also. Actually, maybe she did.

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Re: Head-on collision in Amarillo, TX

Post by scoostraw » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:16 am

Gilbert B Norman wrote:Where has it been reported which of the three employees' remains, C&E of the EB or C of the WB, have not been recovered?
It's Lara Taylor's body that was not recovered.

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Re: Head-on collision in Amarillo, TX

Post by sd80mac » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:34 am

Gilbert B Norman wrote:Where has it been reported which of the three employees' remains, C&E of the EB or C of the WB, have not been recovered?
you're not really following the news? obituaries - their years of service matches the years in the briefings. Hence I put the name and years in my previous comment

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Re: Head-on collision in Amarillo, TX

Post by sd80mac » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:48 am

scoostraw wrote:Thanks SD80.

The woman's name was Lara Taylor. And it appears that she was the conductor on the westbound. It's too bad she didn't make it. Her engineer jumped, and as she was an amateur athlete you would think she might have also. Actually, maybe she did.

I think that its possible that she did and jumped too late and was under the pile or she froze at the steps and rode out the collision, due to the speed of WB. Just remember that, according to some news and reports, the WB speed at collision was 38 mph. That is way too fast to jump off the train. I'm damn surprised that engineer came out alive with more than 45 mph when he jumped. I believe that he jumped way ahead of collision, which would had higher speed. I cant recall the max speed WB was going when EB went through RED, which would dropped WB's green to red. At that point, WB engineer may had got up and abandoned his train right away regardless of train's current speed. Laura may had resisted.... we will never know...

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