Virgin/Brightline Expansion - Jacksonville

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Re: Brightline Expansion

Post by Gilbert B Norman » Sun May 20, 2018 8:09 am

Jeff Smith wrote:Sour grapes:
Again, let us note that the cited piece is the opinion of the Gannett Treasure Coast Newspapers editorial board. My comment made at the FEC Forum topic applies equally over here:

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Re: Brightline Expansion: Jacksonville, Tampa, etc.

Post by lirrelectrician » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:02 pm

lpetrich wrote: I think that the Kennedy Space Center is the world's most accessible spaceport (List of rocket launch sites - Wikipedia). Most others are in much more out-of-the-way locations. It's like airports but much worse.

The closest town to the KSC is Titusville, with population 44 thousand. It's also on the coast between Miami and Jacksonville, while Orlando is inland. Distances: Titusville: 13 mi, Orlando: 46 mi, Jacksonville: 150 mi, Miami: 220 mi (20 km, 74 km, 240 km, 350 km).

Orlando's SunRail commuter-rail system currently runs between Sand Lake Road and DeBary, a distance of about 32 mi. It is being extended southward to Poinciana (Southern Expansion), will make it extend 61 mi. Adding a planned station to the north, DeLong, gives about 71 mi. This means that the line will extend about 30 - 35 mi north and south from Orlando. Titusville is 40 mi east of Orlando, and I don't know what rail lines might be available for that.

So SunRail is also a possibility for the KSC.
Keep in mind there is a large cruise ship terminal in Port Canaveral. So a Brightline station near there would be a traffic generator for passengers going on cruises too.

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Re: Brightline Expansion: Jacksonville, Tampa, etc.

Post by benboston » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:26 am

Yes, I have stopped at this cruise terminal and there isn't much to do nearby. It would be really nice to be able to take the train quickly to say Orlando, Tampa, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm, Palm Coast, etc. Definitely would get high usage here from people on the cruises.
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Re: Brightline Expansion - Jacksonville

Post by Arlington » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:33 pm

The power of global connections at MCO and that Virgin Rail would run a connecting hub there has the potential to drive success beyond just local trip generation.
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Re: Virgin/Brightline Expansion - Jacksonville

Post by Jeff Smith » Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:22 am

Jacksonville Expansion in the news: WJCT.org

The Jaxson: Jacksonville Could Get Train Route To Other Florida Cities
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Closer to home, the potential expansion map route includes an extension of the Florida system to Jacksonville utilizing the Florida East Coast Railway corridor. This could bring economic opportunities to Northeast Florida that could introduce transformation change for Downtown Jacksonville and LaVilla, which is the location of the former Jacksonville Terminal and the Jacksonville Transportation Authority’s Jacksonville Regional Transportation Center. Already under construction, the intermodal center will possibly connect intercity rail systems like Virgin Trains USA and Amtrak with local public transit modes such as bus rapid transit, the Skyway, local bus routes and future bike share.

Assuming a resolution on the future of the Prime Osborn Convention Center involves its ultimate relocation and replacement, the former rail station property immediately becomes a prime location for transit oriented development.
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Next stop, Willoughby
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Re: Virgin/Brightline Expansion - Jacksonville

Post by Jeff Smith » Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:57 am

More on Jacksonville work: WJCT.org

The Jaxson: Grant Could Help Bring Passenger Rail Downtown; Ease San Marco Train Woes
Though it has largely flown under the radar, the Jacksonville Transportation Authority and its partners have quietly launched an ambitious bid that could ultimately bring passenger rail back to Downtown Jacksonville and spark millions in development in the process.

First steps are underway with a $35 million federal grant application to update the city's aging freight rail infrastructure. If successful, the improvements could lead the way to restoring a passenger station at the Prime Osborn for the first time in over 40 years, potentially bringing Amtrak, Brightline, and commuter rail downtown. Could it work?
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JTA, along with the City of Jacksonville and the Florida Department of Transportation have applied for a $35 million federal grant through the Consolidated Rail Infrastructure and Safety Improvement program. The project, supported by CSX and Florida East Coast Railway, would restore the city’s rail and signaling infrastructure, particularly on the FEC corridor. If successful, it would fix San Marco’s freight train chokepoint problem.
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These improvements could also open the door for bringing passenger rail back downtown. Restoring rail service to the Prime F. Osborn Convention Center — built as the Jacksonville Union Terminal— has long been a dream of downtown and transit advocates. The grand building in LaVilla was the country’s largest passenger station south of Washington, D.C. when it opened in 1919, serving 20,000 passengers a day. In 1974, declining use led Amtrak to move its services five miles northwest to a much smaller building colorfully known as an “Amshack.”
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Next stop, Willoughby
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