• TWU 234 - Strike on 11/7?

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Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.

Moderator: AlexC

  by AlexC
 
TWU 234 (buses, trolleys,subway union) has voted to authorize a strike, potentially starting on November 7th.

https://6abc.com/post/septa-union-worke ... /15476815/
Members of Transport Workers Union Local 234, the largest workers' union for SEPTA, met on Sunday to issue their votes, with 100-percent of those in attendance voting in favor of a strike.

According to a union representative, not only are they fighting for more pay, but their main concern is safety and security issues.

The union has been meeting with SEPTA regarding these concerns since July.

Now, this could impact people who rely on SEPTA service if a deal isn't hammered out by midnight, November 7
If this sounds vaguely familiar, it's because this current contract was only a 1 year contract.
  by MACTRAXX
 
AC - As I questioned in 2023 TWU 234 has now authorized a CTD strike with the expiration of the one year
contract on November 7, 2024. Read my last post from one year ago today about this subject -
(There is nothing as of this post time mentioned on SEPTA's website yet)

septa-twu-234-strike-2023-averted-t173630.html (from below on this SEPTA Forum page)

This is an even more precarious time for a City Transit Division strike taking note to SEPTA's finances - and the
October 24 news of Leslie Richards resigning as SEPTA GM/CEO effective on November 29:
www.septa.org/news/leslie-richards-to-s ... ta-gm-ceo/
Chief Operations Officer Scott Sauer will be the interim GM at that point...

FTR: The current CTD contract expiration is after Election Day on Tuesday November 5, 2024...MACTRAXX
  by R36 Combine Coach
 
If only Pennsylvania could enact a "no-strike clause" similar to NYS Taylor Law, this issue wouldn't have to happen every other year.
  by MACTRAXX
 
Everyone - The Inquirer posted a Q and A about a potential SEPTA CTD strike
beginning Friday November 8 (Subject to Paywall Restrictions)

https://inquirer.com/transportation/sep ... wages.html

Note that there is a mention about fare increases and 20% service cuts possible in 2025...
A substantial ridership loss could be a significant problem as SEPTA continues a long term recovery
from the depths of "The Problem" 4 1/2 years ago back to averaging today 80 percent of 2019 levels...

Mentioned is a list of 12 CTD strikes against SEPTA by TWU Local 234 previously (since 1975) -
1975, 1977, twice in 1981, 1982, 1983, twice in 1986, 1995, 1998, 2005 and 2009.

The longest strike against SEPTA was the 108 day Regional Rail in 1983 - in which the major problem
was to be large cuts in railroad employee salaries...This was right after SEPTA took over direct operation
of the then-separate sides (PC and RDG) of the Commuter Rail system from Conrail on January 1, 1983...

What was then proposed was to "transitise" what was originally known as "Regional High Speed" by
lowering as example various railroad union employee crafts to CTD wage levels - which meant a loss
of up to 25% pay in some instances - therefore bringing on the 108 day strike in Spring 1983...

Let's hope just as one year ago cooler heads and rational thinkers prevail -
and a CTD contract settlement gets reached...MACTRAXX
  by scotty269
 
R36 Combine Coach wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:40 pm If only Pennsylvania could enact a "no-strike clause" similar to NYS Taylor Law, this issue wouldn't have to happen every other year.
Ah, but of course. You're right! Let's punish the working man!
  by MACTRAXX
 
MACTRAXX wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:47 pm The longest strike against SEPTA was the 108 day Regional Rail in 1983 - The problem
was to be large cuts in railroad employee salaries...SEPTA began direct operation of the
separate sides (PC and RDG) of the Commuter Rail system from Conrail on January 1, 1983...

What was then proposed to "transitise" what was originally known as "Regional High Speed"
lowering as example various railroad union employee crafts to CTD wage levels - which meant a
loss of up to 25% pay in some instances - therefore bringing on the 108 day strike in Spring 1983...
Everyone: Found this Wikipedia page on the 1983 SEPTA Regional (Commuter) Rail Strike that
I was previously unaware of giving a general idea of the unique set of circumstances and issues then -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_SEPT ... ail_strike
(March 15 to June 30, 1983-time period)
TWU 234 CTD contract disputes with SEPTA are very different from what occurred in 1983...MACTRAXX
  by MACTRAXX
 
Everyone - SEPTA has released information about service changes in the event of a CTD strike that
could begin with the expiration of the current one-year contract at Midnight Friday November 8:
www.septa.org/news/service-interruption-information/
Most Regional Rail lines will offer additional trains - PDF schedule updates are available...
Other SEPTA (non-CTD) transit services operating may have changes outlined by route...
MACTRAXX
  by chuchubob
 
SEPTA and TWU are still talking; no strike as of 4 PM Friday.