• Train To The Plane

  • General discussion of passenger rail systems not otherwise covered in the specific forums in this category, including high speed rail.
General discussion of passenger rail systems not otherwise covered in the specific forums in this category, including high speed rail.

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  by eolesen
 
Point of order regarding the 9B IATA code...

IATA does what's called "controlled duplicates" particularly with rail bookings but also with tour operators and other entities which can be combined on a standard booking/ticket.

9B might decode to another rail company, but with the origin and destinations in different geographic regions, the accounting and booking related messaging gets routed accordingly.

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  by lpetrich
 
I'll now find how far it is from each US airport is to the nearest passenger-rail line.

ATL - DFW - DEN - LAX (uc) - ORD - JFK - MCO - LAS 2.2 mi MGM Grand Monorail Sta - CLT 9.3 mi Charlotte Transport Ctr - MIA - SEA - EWR - SFO - PHX - IAH 15.2 mi Northline Transit Ctr - BOS 0.9 mi Airport T Sta - FLL 3.8 mi Ft. Lauderdale Airport Tri-Rail Sta - MSP - LGA 7.2 mi Jamaica Sta - DTW (modern streetcar) - PHL - SLC - BWI - DCA - SAN 2.2 mi Middletown SD Trolley Sta - TPA (heritage streetcar) - BNA 3 mi Donelson WeGo station - AUS 5.8 mi Plaza Studio Sta - MDW - HNL (uc 2025) - DAL 2.2 mi Inwood / Love Field Sta - PDX - STL - RDU (no urban rail) - HOU 5.8 mi Palm Center Transit Ctr, 7.7 mi Magnolia Park Transit Ctr - SMF 10.7 Township 9 Sta - MSY (heritage streetcar) - SJC 1.1 mi Metro/Airport Sta - SNA 5.8 mi Tustin Metrolink Sta - MCI (modern streetcar) - OAK - SAT (no urban rail) - RSW (no urban rail) - CLE - IND (no urban rail) - PIT 17.9 mi Potomac Sta - CVG (modern streetcar) - CMH (no urban rail) - PBI 3.9 mi West Palm Beach Tri-Rail Sta - OGG (no urban rail) - JAX (downtown people mover) - ONT 2.6 mi Ontario West Metrolink Sta, 4.5 mi Upland Metrolink Sta, 4.1 mi Rancho Cucamonga Metrolink Sta - BUR - BDL (no urban rail) - CHS (no urban rail) - MKE (modern streetcar) - ANC (no urban rail) - ABQ (no urban rail) - OMA (no urban rail) - MEM (heritage streetcar) - RIC (no urban rail) - BOI (no urban rail)
  by lpetrich
 
I'll sort them out.

Existing urban-rail connections: ATL, DFW, DEN, LAX (uc), ORD, JFK, MCO, MIA, SEA, EWR, SFO, PHX, MSP, PHL, SLC, BWI, DCA, MDW, HNL (uc 2025), PDX, STL, OAK, CLE, BUR

Short-distance or no urban-rail lines:
  • Modern streetcar: DTW, MCI, CVG, MKE
  • Heritage streetcar: TPA, MSY, MEM
  • Downtown people mover: JAX
  • No urban rail: RDU, SAT, RSW, IND, CMH, OGG, BDL, CHS, ANC, ABQ, OMA, RIC, BOI
Distance to the nearest urban-rail station:
  • BOS 0.9 mi Airport T Sta
  • SJC 1.1 mi Metro/Airport Sta, 3.6 mi Santa Clara Caltrain Sta
  • LAS 2.2 mi MGM Grand Monorail Sta
  • SAN 2.2 mi Middletown SD Trolley Sta
  • DAL 2.2 mi Inwood / Love Field Sta
  • ONT 2.6 mi Ontario West, 4.1 mi Rancho Cucamonga, 4.5 mi Upland Metrolink Stations
  • BNA 3.0 mi Donelson WeGo station
  • FLL 3.8 mi Ft. Lauderdale Airport Tri-Rail Sta
  • PBI 3.9 mi West Palm Beach Tri-Rail Sta
  • AUS 5.8 mi Plaza Studio Sta
  • HOU 5.8 mi Palm Center Transit Ctr, 7.7 mi Magnolia Park Transit Ctr
  • SNA 5.8 mi Tustin Metrolink Sta
  • LGA 7.2 mi Jamaica Sta
  • CLT 9.3 mi Charlotte Transport Ctr
  • SMF 10.7 Township 9 Sta
  • IAH 15.2 mi Northline Transit Ctr
  • PIT 17.9 mi Potomac Sta
  by RandallW
 
Missing from that list: Dulles International Airport (IAD) has rail service.
  by lpetrich
 
RandallW wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:37 am Missing from that list: Dulles International Airport (IAD) has rail service.
Yes. It was in my earlier lists. I hope I haven't made too many other mistakes. :(
  by lpetrich
 
[wiki]List of airport rail link systems[/wiki] subdivides the link further into intercity/high-speed rail, regional/commuter rail, urban rail, airport light-rail systems ("people movers"), and bus links to rail stations.

Canada: Toronto YYZ: regional rail -- Montreal YUL: u.c. urban rail -- Vancouver YVR: urban rail -- Calgary YYC (spur from urban rail) - Edmonton YEG (extension of urban rail) - Ottawa YOW: u.c. urban rail
  • YYC ~ 4 mi Martindale Sta
  • YEG - 13.5 mi Century Park Sta
In () is a possible rail connection.

US: ATL: urban rail -- DFW: urban, regional rail -- DEN: regional rail -- LAX: u.c. ALRS to urban rail -- Chicago ORD: urban rail -- NYC JFK: ALRS to urban, regional rail -- Orlando MCO intercity rail (extension of regional rail) -- LAS (extension of urban rail) -- CLT (new line of urban rail) -- MIA: ALRS to urban rail -- SEA: urban rail -- EWR: ALRS to regional, intercity rail (extension of urban rail) -- SFO: urban rail -- PHX: ALRS to urban rail -- IAH (extension of urban rail) -- BOS (ALRS to urban rail) -- FLL (ALRS to regional rail) -- MSP: urban rail -- NYC LGA (ALRS to urban, regional rail) -- DTW (short-distance urban rail) -- PHL: regional rail -- SLC: urban rail -- BWI: urban rail (ALRS to regional, intercity rail) -- DCA: urban rail -- SAN: (ALRS to urban rail) -- TPA (short-distance urban rail) -- Nashville BNA (ALRS to regional rail) -- AUS (ALRS? extension of urban rail?) -- Chicago MDW: urban rail -- HNL u.c. 2025 urban rail -- DAL: (ALRS to urban rail )-- PDX: urban rail -- STL: urban rail -- RDU: (no urban rail) -- HOU (extension of urban rail) -- SMF (extension of urban rail) -- New Orleans MSY (short-distance urban rail) -- SJC (ALRS to urban rail, regional rail) -- John Wayne SNA (no urban rail) -- Kansas City MCI (short-distance urban rail) -- OAK: ALRS to urban rail -- SAT (no urban rail) -- Fort Myers RSW (no urban rail) -- CLE: urban rail -- IND (no urban rail) -- PIT (urban-rail new line) -- Cincinnati CVG (short-distance urban rail) -- CMH (no urban rail) -- PbI (no urban rail) -- Kahului OGG (no urban rail) -- JAX (short-distance urban rail) -- LA ONT (ALRS to regional rail) -- BUR: regional rail -- Hartford BDL (no urban raill) -- CHS (no urban rail) -- MKE (short-distance urban rail) -- ANC (no urban rail) -- ABQ (no urban rail) -- OMA (no urban rail) -- MEM (short-distance urban rail) -- RIC (no urban rail)
  by lpetrich
 
Of the airports of the 6 railed Canadian cities, Tor YYZ and Van YVR have existing urban or regional rail connections, Mon YUL and Ott YOW have under-construction ones, and Cal YYC and Edm YEG have possible ones that are extensions of their existing systems.

For the US, for urban and regional rail connections, busiest airports first:
  • Existing direct connections: ATL, DFW, DEN, ORD, SEA, SFO, MSP, PHL, SLC, BWI, DCA, MDW, HNL (u.c.), PDX, STL, CLE, BUR
  • Existing ALRS connections: LAX (u.c.), JFK, MIA, EWR, PHX, OAK
  • Existing intercity connections only: MCO
  • Possible direct connections: MCO, LAS, CLT, IAH, HOU, SMF, PIT
  • Possible ALRS connections: BOS, FLL, LGA, SAN, BNA, DAL, SJC, ONT
  • Unwilling to speculate: AUS
  • Short-distance urban rail: DTW, TPA, MSY, MCI, CVG, JAX, MKE, MEM
  • No urban rail: RDU, SNA, SAT, RSW, IND, CMH, PBI, OGG, BDL, CHS, ANC, ABQ, OMA, RIC
      by lpetrich
     
    Checking on Orlando MCO, I've found that the SunRail route goes surprisingly close, with the airport's site advertising a bus connection to the Sand Lake Road station. Measuring the distance, I find it to be about 5 miles.

    SLR is to the northwest of the airport, and the other nearby station, Meadow Woods, is to the southwest. The Brightline station is at the south end of the station, and a SunRail spur to that station would branch off near MW. It also would be about 5 miles long.
      by Gilbert B Norman
     
    Gilbert B Norman wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:42 am Overseas:
    Allow me to add one:

    Berlin Brandenburg (EDDB/BER) trains, be they S-Bahn or Regional, operate every fifteen minutes to the Hauptbahnhof, and making stops such as Bahnhof Ost. Additionally, some stop at Berlin Zoo which is in the heart of former West Berlin. Fare is €4,40; should you choose to buy a daily or weekly pass; you will need to buy for three zones.
      by FatNoah
     
    Berlin Brandenburg (EDDB/BER) trains, be they S-Bahn or Regional, operate every fifteen minutes to the Hauptbahnhof
    I experienced two of these airport <-> regional rail connections this week, including at BER (though my destination was Alexanderplatz). I greatly appreciated the "don't have to think about it" scheduling of the service. I just showed up and hopped on the correct train when it arrived.

    EWR->NYP was similarly easy, though the NEC station for the airport was "slightly" less busy. Connection was very easy, especially since my office is literally across the street from Moynihan.
      by west point
     
    In the late 1960s proposals to extend the PATH from Newark Penn station to Newark airport were shot down by various other transportation entities that served the airport. IMO nothing has changed in the ~~60 years. Of course, the layout of the airport terminals and runways has changes so much that much built track back then would have needed to be abandoned.