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A general discussion about shortlines, industrials, and military railroads

Moderator: Aa3rt

  by jg greenwood
 
Anyone have any info re: this railroad? It's supposedly located in El Centro. Thanks for any information.

  by Aa3rt
 
Mr Greenwood, Having spent some time stationed in Southern California during the early 1970's while in the Coast Guard, I thought this would be an easy one to track down. Since your question is written in the present tense, I assumed that you were inferring that the line is currently active. However, information proved a little more elusive than I'd imagined.

Here's what I was able to piece together.

A brief history of rail lines on the California/Mexico border in San Diego County:

http://mexican.railspot.com/minsk1.htm

There was a "California Southern Railroad" that began life in 1880, initally to connect National City (a suburb of San Diego) to a connection with the Southern Pacific near Perris, CA. (Home of the "Orange Empire Railway Museum".)

From the San Diego Railway Museum website, here are two more links that may be of interest:

http://www.sdrm.org/history/cs/calsouth.html

http://www.sdrm.org/history/sda/history.html

Here's a source for California railroad maps in the event you're interested:

http://www.djcooley.com/rr/maps/ca03/ca03.htm

I did find a map at the El Centro official website showing two lines crossing within the city limits. Also I found that Amtrak serves El Centro (over Union Pacific lines I believe) but if there is a shortline in El Centro I've been unable to find it.
  by jg greenwood
 
Mr. Audley,
This railroad is part of the American Railroads Group. They own several shortline/industrial railroads throughout the country. One of their operations is adjacent to the Chrysler plant in Fenton, MO. They took over operations from the BNSF at this facility several years ago. Thank you for your input/efforts.

  by Aa3rt
 
Well, I did manage to find this link to the "California Shortline Railroad Association":

http://www.cslra.org/shortlines.php

The San Diego and Imperial Valley Railroad does run a line from San Ysidro to Plaster City, but that is about 30 miles west of El Centro.

http://www.railtex.com/railmaps/SDIY.htm

This line interchanges with the BNSF in San Diego and with the UP in Plaster City.

PS-Please call me Art. :wink:

  by Aji-tater
 
I did a web search on Southern California Railroad without any luck. Where are you getting the name from?

Also, you state that it is part of the American Railroads Group. I can't find anything by that name either. By chance are you refering to RailAmerica? They fit the description you give of owning several railroads around the country, and also they operate some of the lines Art speaks of, although not by the name you're asking for.

Double-check wherever you got the railroad name from, then check Art's links and also find the RailAmerica website, I neglected to get the URL. Maybe you'll find the railroad you want under a different name.

  by jg greenwood
 
Aji-tater wrote:I did a web search on Southern California Railroad without any luck. Where are you getting the name from?

Also, you state that it is part of the American Railroads Group. I can't find anything by that name either. By chance are you refering to RailAmerica? They fit the description you give of owning several railroads around the country, and also they operate some of the lines Art speaks of, although not by the name you're asking for.

Double-check wherever you got the railroad name from, then check Art's links and also find the RailAmerica website, I neglected to get the URL. Maybe you'll find the railroad you want under a different name.
Not affiliated with RailAmerica.
Should read American Railroads Corporation. The name comes from railjobs.com

  by Aji-tater
 
Can't find any such company on a Yahoo search. Pocket List of Railroad Officials does not list Southern California Railroad under Freight Railroads, the closest is under Tourist Railrods they list Southern California Railway Museum. Maybe they have hopes of starting in the future but I can't find any evidence they operate at present.
  by clutch
 
This is a standard gauge switching operation in Plaster City California. It works at the U.S.G plant moving centerbeam cars for drywall. A GP 40 is used and is a former DRG&W unit.

  by kaiserworks
 
Are you refering to a narrow gauge that is run by a mining company in Plaster City? I recall they had a GP40 looking diesel engine equipped with narrow running gear.
Last edited by kaiserworks on Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.

  by kaiserworks
 
http://www.whitepassfan.net/usg/index.php
This is the only switching operation in Plaster city other than class I loading / interchange movements. It is not standard gauge. Interestingly it is the only narrow gauge industrial rr left in the US. On second thought if you saw a GP40, it was probably Carrizo Gorge Railway:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrizo_Gorge_Railway which usually parks it in downtown San Diego between the trolley barn and 10th ave. Marine terminal yard. I've never seen it out in the desert though I don't get out that way much anymore. The line is currently open the entire way from San Diego - Tijuana- Tecate - Campo - Plaster city - el centro and is slowly being upgraded. Unforunately because of tight curves, no motive power larger than 4 axle units will use this line. I had heard that track levels through the numerous tunnels on the Campo to Plaster city section had been lowered to permit double stack containers. Beside the large gypsum mine there are also alot of hoppers headed to the brewery in Tecate on that section of line. Sorry for all the extra info, hope it answers your initial question without getting too far off topic.