STrRedWolf wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:11 pm I'm a mixed bag here. I agree with you, West Point, that the Superliners have to be replaced with a 1-to-1 setup. The load on all the overnight long-distance services isn't enough to justify expanding service with such specialized equipment.As I suggested before, the Night Owl, which actually runs from Newport News to Boston and not D.C., is the only existing train that could use a lay flat first class car in lieu of a first class sleeper car. Why build just 3 cars of a specific type? Better to just use an already existing Viewliner sleeper as the first class car, and avoid confusing everyone with the 3 abreast business class car using normal reclining seats with first class lay flat seats altogether. There are up to75 Viewliner sleepers in Amtrak's equipment roster.
But certain areas do have the load and possible demand. The Regional's "Night Owl" from Washington to Boston is 9-10 hours overnight. Any day-trip service that takes 8+ hours and has times of pure sell-out could use a night-time service. The Pennsylvanian has enough of a load and demand to justify a second run later in the day, and I bet there could be special service for overnight carriage (which we mused about in that train's dedicated thread). So it's worth at least exploring concepts.
For those that argue lay flat seats provide more privacy and more room than a reclining seat, what gives you that idea? Lay flat seats are only better than reclining seats only if you plan to sleep in them. Who sleeps well on trains at 8 am or 8 pm with daylinght shinning through the windows?