Discussion relating to the operations of MTA MetroNorth Railroad including west of Hudson operations and discussion of CtDOT sponsored rail operations such as Shore Line East and the Springfield to New Haven Hartford Line

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  by kitn1mcc
 
I saw a thing on twitter that the SLE cars are now banned west of new haven and this is what holding up the return of the stamford express return
  by gregorygrice
 
They've been banned for years. The Stamford turns were removed due to that and covid reductions.
  by daybeers
 
What's the reasoning for that?
  by gregorygrice
 
Manual doors.
  by kitn1mcc
 
So after all the years of no issues with the door they can no longer operate down there i call that complete BS. they ended service due to Covid people want the service back
  by gregorygrice
 
Call BS all you want. Those are the facts...
  by BandA
 
I have manual doors in my house and car. Never had much difficulty operating them.
  by Erie-Lackawanna
 
BandA wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:49 pm I have manual doors in my house and car. Never had much difficulty operating them.
Chances are you won’t fall out of your house at 60+ mph if one manages to open unintentionally. And your car doors open outward, which makes them very difficult to open when in motion. Train doors open inward, allowing Darwin candidates the ability to nominate themselves for the award.

Apples to oranges comparison aside, I agree that it’s a poor excuse, but it is the actual reason; it had nothing to do with COVID.

Jim
  by MattW
 
Is it more specifically due to the lack of door interlocks? Does Amtrak has anything between New Haven and New Rochelle that uses manual doors? The Vermonter?
  by XBNSFer
 
gregorygrice wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:44 am Manual doors.
They have had manual doors since acquired by Metro North. Makes no sense to deem them "unsafe" on the New Haven Line (AFTER allowing them to operate as they are for years), while allowing them to operate on the Springfield Line and Shoreline East services.

As to the comment about which way the doors open, I have not ridden on the recently acquired cars for the expansion of Springfield Line service, but the Mafersa cars are sliders, they don't open "in."

Was the "special instruction" the result of an "incident" involving the doors, or did the "standards" just magically change?
  by gregorygrice
 
XBNSFer wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:15 pm
gregorygrice wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:44 am Manual doors.
They have had manual doors since acquired by Metro North. Makes no sense to deem them "unsafe" on the New Haven Line (AFTER allowing them to operate as they are for years), while allowing them to operate on the Springfield Line and Shoreline East services.

As to the comment about which way the doors open, I have not ridden on the recently acquired cars for the expansion of Springfield Line service, but the Mafersa cars are sliders, they don't open "in."

Was the "special instruction" the result of an "incident" involving the doors, or did the "standards" just magically change?
Metro-North has never "acquired" any of these cars. They are owned by and maintained by ConnDOT for use on Shore Line East (and now also the Hartford Line). MNR agreed to run them for those 4 SLE round trips. That has since been changed due to the reasons listed above...