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  by JDC
 
Today I was scouting real estate in Ashburn area and it made me wonder, what was the rationale for the placement - or even the need - for the station now called Loudoun Gateway? Looking at the surrounding area filled with warehouses or data centers, it does not seem that this station really was needed to serve a customer-filled catchment zone; instead, I imagine that nearly all of the customers will be closer to the Ashburn station or Innovation Center station. I know there is often a 'build it and they will come' argument made about stations, but that seems unlikely given the current configuration of the area. To me, it would have made more sense to create 2 stations in the Ashburn area, moving the current one a bit more east and then having a final one closer to route 659. Thoughts?
  by STrRedWolf
 
JDC wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:13 am Today I was scouting real estate in Ashburn area and it made me wonder, what was the rationale for the placement - or even the need - for the station now called Loudoun Gateway? Looking at the surrounding area filled with warehouses or data centers, it does not seem that this station really was needed to serve a customer-filled catchment zone; instead, I imagine that nearly all of the customers will be closer to the Ashburn station or Innovation Center station. I know there is often a 'build it and they will come' argument made about stations, but that seems unlikely given the current configuration of the area. To me, it would have made more sense to create 2 stations in the Ashburn area, moving the current one a bit more east and then having a final one closer to route 659. Thoughts?
Can you walk from those warehouses (skip the data centers, don't need as many people there) to Ashburn?

I think the argument here is not "build it and they will come" but more "get people to work and back".
  by Sand Box John
 
The placement of the station is to serve passengers west and north of Stirling and east of Ashburn. Passengers east of VA-28 would use Innovation Center, passengers west of VA-28 would use Loudoun Gateway.
  by JDC
 
Adam Tuss is reporting that WMAA expects to hand over phase 2 to WMATA 'around' Labor Day, kicking off the 90-day testing period. So, maybe 2021....or early 2022.
  by Sand Box John
 
JDC
Adam Tuss is reporting that WMAA expects to hand over phase 2 to WMATA 'around' Labor Day, kicking off the 90-day testing period. So, maybe 2021....or early 2022.


Airports Authority Targets Labor Day Handoff of Silver Line Phase 2 Project to Metro
DCMP Press Release
03 05 2021 14:40
  by STrRedWolf
 
Okay, lets talk timing and bring in what's going on.

Labor Day 2021 is September 6th.

90 days from that is... 30, 31, 30... Dec 5th.

Previous estimates have COVID-19 Herd Immunity around late September. So Dec 5th... we're probably masks off. Folks are starting to travel again. Dulles gets busier and busier... and BAM! Silver Line right into the city opens up. WMATA gets the holiday traffic. Not as big as expected but it's bigger than current. And that's the best case scenario!

Watch it miss and land in court.
  by daybeers
 
December would be awesome! We shall see. I bet someone a Phase II Silver Line fare it won't open til '22.
  by Sand Box John
 
A couple days ago I realized something I had not thought of before. I dug out the preliminary engineering drawings of the Dulles Airport station. I looked at the drawings and saw what I realized was true. The escalators that will carry passengers between the fare collection mezzanine and the platform are longer then escalators connecting the mezzanines in the Court House and Van Ness stations to the passageways to the surface entrance escalators. The number I came up with was 57' 8 1/4" vertical rise. The Van Ness escalators are 56' 6 1/8", the Court House escalators are 48' 6 1/4". Mind you the elevations in the preliminary engineering drawings may not be the same as what was actually built, but they are likely pretty close.
  by Sand Box John
 
STrRedWolf
How about Rosslyn? That has to rank up there as well.


Rosslyn ranks 5th below Medical Center, Woodley Zoo Park, Bethesda and Wheaton.

Van Ness and Court House were bumped down by Dulles Airport on the list I created more then 25 years ago.

Inventory of stations with escalators over 45' 13.71m vertical rise.
Code: Select all
Station 	 Escalators 	Feet  Inches 	Meters
Wheaton 	 	3  	115'  5" 	35.17m
Bethesda 	 	3 	107'  6 1/2" 	32.77m
Woodley Zoo Park 	3 	103'  2 1/2" 	31.45m
Medical Center 	 	3 	100' 11 7/8" 	30.78m
Rosslyn 	 	4 	 97'  9 1/4" 	29.80m
Dupont Circle 			
North 	 	 	3 	 94’  5 3/4" 	28.79m
South 	 	 	3 † 	 84’  9 1/4" 	25.83m
Tenleytown 	 	3 	 81'  3 1/2" 	24.76m
Friendship Heights 	3 	 65' 10 3/4" 	20.08m
Pentagon ** 	 	3 	 59'    3/4" 	18.00m
Cleveland Park 	 	3 	 58'  9 3/8" 	17.92m
Dulles Airport †† 	2 	 57'  8 1/4" 	17.58m
Van Ness 	 	3 	 56'  6 1/8" 	17.30m
Court House *** 	3 	 48'  6 1/4" 	14.76m
All Stations in bedrock except Court House, Pentagon and Dulles Airport.

†Entrance opened in 1977 with 2, upgraded to 3 in 2012.

††Elevated station.

**Station in cut and cover, escalators no longer in service.

***Deepest station in cut and cover.
  by JDC
 
Fingers crossed as I'll soon be a resident of those parts with the need to commute downtown on a regular (although not daily) basis.
  by daybeers
 
JDC wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 7:34 am Fingers crossed as I'll soon be a resident of those parts with the need to commute downtown on a regular (although not daily) basis.
Nice! I wouldn’t rely on the Silver Line Phase II opening on time for the umpteenth delayed opening though just FYI.
  by JDC
 
Rode Metro today for the first time since late winter and this time happened to switch trains in Rosslyn, where I noticed that the wall signs had been updated to say "Ashburn" as Silver line destination.
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