Discussion relating to the operations of MTA MetroNorth Railroad including west of Hudson operations and discussion of CtDOT sponsored rail operations such as Shore Line East and the Springfield to New Haven Hartford Line

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  by Terminal Proceed
why should they - they can't run them past Harmon or North White. What kind of fan trip could you run there regularly?

  by 7 Train
Simply add ditch lights or run them as de-motorized coaches like the LIRR P72's.

  by ctaman34
no they should be converted to gap filler trains to cover for a late train

  by DutchRailnut
Simply adding Ditch lights is not an option. On an overtaxed electrical system the car would need a bigger Motor/Alternator for battery charging then.

Converting 45 year old cars is not an option either, as that would be a structural rebuild and new standards need to be implied. The car is already too heavy.

Face it guys - they are gonna be cut up. No matter what you think the cars are gonners.

  by Terrapin Station
They should give one car to the Electric City Trolley Museum in Scranton, PA, and convert it to trolley pole operation and then run it through the Crown Ave tunnel at 40+ MPH! Woo hoo!
  by Noel Weaver
The remaining 1100's should be laid up and stored in good order. If
within a year or two, an unforseen problem comes up with the M-7's, the
stored 1100's could with a minimal amount of work be put back into use
at least for a temporary period.
Unforseen problems have come up in the past with a variety of new
equipment and there is always a possibility that problems could strike the
M-7's a year or two down the road too.
If after a year or two or three, the 1100's are not needed, then they could
still be sold whether to a museum operation or for scrap.
Knowing the MTA, this will not happen, they will likely go just like "Dutch"
stated earlier.
Noel Weaver

  by Nasadowsk
It's sad no preservation groups have stepped up and tried to get a couple. I can't imagine MN wouldn't let them, and in any case, those cars at least look like they're in decent shape.

But, I agree with Dutch here too :(

  by Mr Met
will there be a set at the open house this saturaday
  by Fred G
Mr Met wrote:should MN keep a set of acmu's to use on fan trips like the nyc subways do
No, but they should be donated to museums.
  by DutchRailnut
Today the North White Shop prepared the first ACMU's for shipment to scrapper. Shoe Beams are removed and event recorders and Horns and some other usable parts.
first cars stripped are:
In the next few days they will do 1159-1154-1164-1109-1168-1149-1130-1105-1166-1131.

  by Nasadowsk
Ahh, they removing those cute tweet tweet horns too? Those sounded cool. Anyway to (legally) get one?

  by mncommuter
What did the original horns sound like? Does anyone have a sound file of it?


  by Noel Weaver
I believe the little tweet whistles on the 1100's are the same whistles that
they came with new.
I doubt that they would be suitable for any other Metro-North equipment
other than maybe some work equipment.
I wonder if they will still have a useable train of them for the last run?
Anybody heard how many cars that last run is expected to have?
Noel Weaver

  by DutchRailnut
The little Air whistle as not been used for some time, all A cars were modified with M1 horns about 5 years ago. the horns will be returned to stockroom.
90% of the air whistles was removed over the years.
as for Noels question about 15 or so ACMU's will be kept from what I hear for possible snow train use and the excursion of course.