Shortest-lived Amtrak Equipment, NOT WRECKED

I guess the sad record goes to P40 819 which was wrecked on the Sunset Limited in 1993, less than three weeks old. The two P42s wrecked at Wendover in 2001 must've been less than a year old at the time, anyone recall when they were delivered? And of course the two City-Sprinters which were abt 1 1/2 - 2 years old when they were wrecked.
Are there any other examples of short-lived Amtrak equipment?

The rebuilt Rohr Turbos have got to be up there:

USRF: This subject has to be separated into two sections -
1-Actual service life
2-Wrecked equipment

My choices for actual service is the 70s era SDP40F locomotive fleet and the two locomotive 10 car
LRC train that was tested and used between NYP-NHV and BOS. GBN's mention of the ill-fated NYS
rebuilt Turboliner fleet has to be right up there in this category.

Wrecks unfortunately happen and are a fact of railroad life.
The units mentioned by USRF were literally in the wrong place at the wrong time...
MACTRAXX

How about Amtrak-operated/WSDOT-owned Siemens SC-44 1402 that wrecked on the Cascades Point Defiance route? Delivered in March 2017 and wrecked on December 18, 2017. Does that count?

Admin note

We will use this thread for service life, and defer wrecks to another.

The 12 SPV-2000s that CT bought for New Haven-Springfield service have to be up there. They entered service in 1980 or 1981 and were withdrawn in January 1986.

MHCs: 15 years

The 1987 F40s lasted only about 15-16 years.

The former SEPTA Metroliners (820-830) lasted just 16 years in MU service, being accepted in 1972. 820 was not
part of the GE rebuild program and out of service by 1981 (nine years).

HHP8s (14-15 years, 2000/2001-2015)

Gilbert B Norman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:55 am The rebuilt Rohr Turbos have got to be up there:

April 2003 - May 2004 for the first rebuilt set I think. Less than that for the second, and the third completed set never even turned a wheel in revenue service. Hard to beat that one.

What about the SDP-40s ? Weren't some of the steam geerator units never converted to HEP ?

Santa Fe never had issue with the SDP-40F, and continued to accept them until Superliner equipment was assigned to The Chief. At that time, ATSF acquired the forty originals 501-39, stripped their steam generating gear, and used them for the remainder of their service life.

Regarding the remaining 110 units, they became salvageable parts within the F40-PHR's (some railfan circles said designated such for Amtrak CEO at the time - Paul H. Reistrup, but actually Passenger Hood Rebuilt).

The settlement between became one of those "without admission or denial" or whatever the lawyersse for that is. No public disclosure of the terms has ever been made.

Additional discussion of this transaction is over at the EMD Forum.

Do the newly delivered Viewdiners count in the sense they've been completely crippled now?

How about the ex-Army kitchen cars used as HEP power cars and the shorty baggage cars at the Amfleet I debut

Greg Moore wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:48 pm Do the newly delivered Viewdiners count in the sense they've been completely crippled now?

They're scrapping the diners??

They're not being scrapped, but Amtrak is only serving prepackaged ready to eat plastic sealed food to be consumed in rooms or seats, so the diners are somewhat redundant and useless as long as COVID restrictions remain in place.

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As both Messrs. Moore and Olesen note, the V-II-D's, without all of them being placed in revenue service (eleven reportedly stored), will never be used as intended. Full service prepared on-board "dining" is gone, Systemwide, and no amount of advocacy community, or even Congressional, "howling" is going to bring it back.

While the apparent repeal of the "Mica Rule" returns direction prerogative to the Board, as it should, the lessons of cost savings have been learned.

The cost savings are simply too overwhelming to ignore.