It happens. They're working on a new master tower that will consolidate tower control of both levels of West 4th Street, 34th Street on Sixth Avenue and 42nd Street on Eighth Avenue.
If you go, it was in the mezzanine, inside the fare control area near the token booth. IIRC, it faced away from the turnstiles.
Allan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:08 pm It has been a long time since anyone posted in this subject but the Q train is doing a 3 part service reroute this weekend (July 16/17, 2022) until August 2022.Say whut?
The reason given is track and signal work
Downtown service will operate from 96 St/2 Av via regular route to Atlantic-Barclays on the D/N and then express on 4 Av to 59 St on the N and then non-stop on the Sea Beach line (N) to Coney Island-Stillwell Av.
The return trip to 96 St will be via the West End line (D), making express stops to Atlantic-Barclays and then local via the R line to Canal St and then express on Broadway to 96 St.
A shuttle bus provides service between Atlantic-Barclays and Prospect Park.
On top of all that there is a Q shuttle between Prospect Park and Coney Island-Stillwell.
Allan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:00 am It is a weekend G.O. so the B would not be running. It does run as normal during weekdays.I would think a rail fan would come up with a better setup, given track layout and current state of the switches. I mean, I had to work out why they had this set up from a reverse-engineered track map... and also saw where there could be some improvement had track not been raised.
I am wondering why they are doing multiple Q reroutes. I would think that it would have been easier to run a Q Shuttle between 96th St and 57/7, and add a few more TPH on the N to make up for the loss of service along Broadway. I don't think running Qs to/from Brooklyn like they are is providing effective service.
It looked like a railfan set that strange service set up.
But one never knows what lies behind some of these routings they come up with.
Kilgore Trout wrote: ↑Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:29 pm My guess is that because the Q shuttle train is running, there are three goals, in decreasing order of priority:I wouldn't be too surprised if that's the end goal. The routing was weird until I grabbed the track map book and traced it down to find where the capacity to do it was.
- Get passengers to crosstown buses which connect the D/N to the Q shuttle trains.
- Load-balance crowds away from the F, Franklin Shuttle, and the Q shuttle buses, in service of #1. Some passengers may not even need the Q shuttle train if they can be diverted to a local bus that goes close enough to their destination. (I recall the schlep to the Q shuttle buses when that was my local train - despite best efforts to load and go, it was never efficient, and traffic on Flatbush Avenue can be a killer.)
- Have passengers take the Q shuttle to Coney Island then get to/from there as fast as possible. I imagine the primary users of such a transfer would probably be south of Kings Highway as a transfer to a local bus would start to be time-competitive north of there.