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I remember taking a walking tour of the tunnel from Judiciary Square to Metro Center before this segment was fully completed. A group of DC Teachers was given this tour as a part of a teacher education summer course on career education. Very interesting and somewhat erie to be in that tunnel in that...

Re: Why don't all Route 13 trolleys go to Darby

 by walt ¦  Fri May 06, 2016 1:25 pm ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: Why don't all Route 13 trolleys go to Darby ¦  Replies: 3 ¦  Views: 2222

What would be the advantage of having two subway-surface routes running between Juniper Street and the Darby Loop? For most of those runs, Chester and Woodland Aves are not that far apart ( though on their outer ends they are). Is there really enough traffic on the western ends of each street to Dar...

Re: SEPTA plans feasibility study on West Chester

 by walt ¦  Fri May 06, 2016 1:11 pm ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: SEPTA plans feasibility study on West Chester ¦  Replies: 68 ¦  Views: 28428

That's interesting-- of course this was almost 50 years ago, but though I lived on campus while I attended WCU ( when it was West Chester State College) whenever the train schedule permitted, I would use the train to travel from home in West Yeadon, less than a mile from the Lansdowne Station, to WC...

Re: SEPTA plans feasibility study on West Chester

 by walt ¦  Fri May 06, 2016 12:28 am ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: SEPTA plans feasibility study on West Chester ¦  Replies: 68 ¦  Views: 28428

I'd love to the rail service restored to West Chester but I wonder if the ridership would be any better than it was when the service was cut back. As far back as the PRR days, ridership between Media & West Chester was sparce at best. They generally couldn't fill one MP 54 car, and only ran two ...

Re: Historical Discussion

 by walt ¦  Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:48 pm ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: Historical Discussion ¦  Replies: 176 ¦  Views: 137567

No problem. These 14 cars were built circa 1949 by the St. Louis Car Co using a variation of the pre-war PCC body ( no standee windows), with the 32 degree windshield slope and the "Chicago" Length ( to accommodate the second platform). They were my favorite Red Arrow Cars, though the 1941...

Re: Historical Discussion

 by walt ¦  Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:25 pm ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: Historical Discussion ¦  Replies: 176 ¦  Views: 137567

Wash me. Good looking PCC (I guess it is.) Nothing wrong with it that a little soap and water wouldn't fix. That and one tail light on the front of the car off and the other on. Anyhow, as a rail fan, I love it. Car 20 isn't much better, with its two-tone door. From Philadelphia Trolley Tracks, whi...

Re: Longest interurban survivors?

 by walt ¦  Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:39 pm ¦  Forum: General Discussion: Fallen Flags, Trolleys, and Interurbans ¦  Topic: Longest interurban survivors? ¦  Replies: 13 ¦  Views: 10907

The South Shore Line and the P&W have long been considered the last two remaining interurbans, however each has some characteristics of other types of rail lines. The South Shore, especially with its current passenger equipment is very much like a commuter railroad, while the P&W ( as the No...

Re: Trolley questions

 by walt ¦  Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:14 am ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: Trolley questions ¦  Replies: 31 ¦  Views: 4786

Germantown is the brake shop for the SEPTA buses as well as a depot for the contractor operations for route 310 - Horsham Breeze, 312 - Cornwells Heights Parking Shuttle, and 316 - LUCY (Green & Gold). Until a few years (actually, I think more like 8 to 10 - my how the years blow by!) there wer...

Re: Trolley questions

 by walt ¦  Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:52 am ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: Trolley questions ¦  Replies: 31 ¦  Views: 4786

Where is Victory Depot (cross streets please) and what is its function? The Victory Ave facility was originally the Red Arrow bus storage and maintenance facility as well as serving as the P&W's 'car barn". During Red Arrow days, the trolleys were stored and maintained at the Llanerch faci...

Re: Ramped/raised curb lane streetcar stops

 by walt ¦  Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:59 pm ¦  Forum: General Discussion - Passenger Rail: High Speed and Heavy and Light Rail Systems ¦  Topic: Ramped/raised curb lane streetcar stops ¦  Replies: 30 ¦  Views: 10221

Philadelphia will have a problem raising the loading level on the surface portions of the subway-surface lines because, except for the portion of Route 36 running on Island Road, the tracks for those lines are in the middle of streets which do not have sufficient room for the installation of an isl...

Re: Ramped/raised curb lane streetcar stops

 by walt ¦  Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:22 pm ¦  Forum: General Discussion - Passenger Rail: High Speed and Heavy and Light Rail Systems ¦  Topic: Ramped/raised curb lane streetcar stops ¦  Replies: 30 ¦  Views: 10221

Philadelphia will have a problem raising the loading level on the surface portions of the subway-surface lines because, except for the portion of Route 36 running on Island Road, the tracks for those lines are in the middle of streets which do not have sufficient room for the installation of an isla...

Re: Ramped/raised curb lane streetcar stops

 by walt ¦  Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:25 am ¦  Forum: General Discussion - Passenger Rail: High Speed and Heavy and Light Rail Systems ¦  Topic: Ramped/raised curb lane streetcar stops ¦  Replies: 30 ¦  Views: 10221

Philadelphia's remaining traction lines were all built in or prior to the early 20th Century. In the city itself, you have the five subway-surface lines, which are traditional streetcar lines in West Philadelphia with stops at street corners, usually with the car in the middle of the street. Passeng...

Re: Trolleys for Route 23

 by walt ¦  Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:02 pm ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: Trolleys for Route 23 ¦  Replies: 54 ¦  Views: 9638

It has now been five years since this thread began--- bottomline is there will be no restoration of streetcar service to Route 23. SEPTA never intended to restore rail service to either 23 or 56. And the photo which prompted the thread is actually a "what if" photo by Phillytrolley.Org ima...

Re: SEPTA Route at the CSX Crossing

 by walt ¦  Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:44 pm ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: SEPTA Route at the CSX Crossing ¦  Replies: 4 ¦  Views: 1513

Does anyone have a video of a SEPTA Route 11 car ACTUALLY MEETING a CSX train at the diamond? I would love to see it. Lee Carlson A photo of that is likely to be difficult, if not impossible to find let alone a video, unless you'd be satisfied with a shot of a Route 11 car having to wait at the cro...

Re: A New Name For Baltimore's Penn Station?

 by walt ¦  Thu May 09, 2013 3:02 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: Baltimore Penn Station ¦  Replies: 124 ¦  Views: 17895

If they don't sell naming rights, it makes perfect sense to me to rename it Maryland Station. What do we call the other 5 stations along the NEC in Maryland where Amtrak stops? Four of the five major stations along the NEC are, or were named Penn ( or Pennsylvania) Station: New York ( NYP), Newark,...

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