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Re: Why No M5?

 by jlr3266 ¦  Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:11 pm ¦  Forum: Long Island Rail Road (LIRR) ¦  Topic: Why No M5? ¦  Replies: 22 ¦  Views: 6732

Single MU cars would gap out in the large 3rd rail gaps in high speed turnouts. A pair can handle will over 150 feet.

That is correct. The drill rigs and materials need to reach out to the cofferdams/foundations. In theory, the temporary bridges will be removed, but so was the temporary one for Secaucus .

Temporary access roads and viaducts into the swamp. I can see a few cofferdams prepared and serious pile driving for the east pier of the main span. There is still a lot of borings and demolition to go as you head west. Two years at a minimum is a good estimate STrRedWolf.

Re: The East Side Access Project Discussion (ESA)

 by jlr3266 ¦  Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:50 am ¦  Forum: Long Island Rail Road (LIRR) ¦  Topic: The East Side Access Project Discussion (ESA) ¦  Replies: 1157 ¦  Views: 377681

The plan to use the existing lower level of GCT was killed for a few reasons. The wide, shallow alignment required underpinning the Park Ave tunnel for several blocks, several historic buildings, and a significant portion of GCT. LIRR required a separate ticketing area and other back-of-house spaces...

Re: The East Side Access Project Discussion (ESA)

 by jlr3266 ¦  Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:24 am ¦  Forum: Long Island Rail Road (LIRR) ¦  Topic: The East Side Access Project Discussion (ESA) ¦  Replies: 1157 ¦  Views: 377681

That was for material removed to connect the caverns and the Madison Yard area.

Re: The East Side Access Project Discussion (ESA)

 by jlr3266 ¦  Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:35 pm ¦  Forum: Long Island Rail Road (LIRR) ¦  Topic: The East Side Access Project Discussion (ESA) ¦  Replies: 1157 ¦  Views: 377681

The FEIS plan was still based on using the existing Lower Level of GCT for the ESA service. For many reasons, some even engineering related, the current scheme are for the deep caverns with no connection to the MNR levels.

It looks like you have a job assignment. This page is an enormous font of information , but would hardly count as a source for comparing installed costs of the two systems. Even among the individual systems, the price difference between NY and CA are radically different.

Re: Why jointed rail, rather than welded rail, on subway lines?

 by jlr3266 ¦  Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:17 am ¦  Forum: NYCT MTA Subway, PATH and SIRT ¦  Topic: Why jointed rail, rather than welded rail, on subway lines? ¦  Replies: 10 ¦  Views: 5611

CWR imparts a longitudinal load into structures through the rail fasteners. Particularly if there is a break. Most of the elevated structures were designed to flex, but the more rigid structures most likely can't take the added loads.

Re: The East Side Access Project Discussion (ESA)

 by jlr3266 ¦  Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:54 pm ¦  Forum: Long Island Rail Road (LIRR) ¦  Topic: The East Side Access Project Discussion (ESA) ¦  Replies: 1157 ¦  Views: 377681

Has the work at Harold by LIRR progressed enough that Amtrak trains will no longer be delayed by conflicting LIRR trains ? ----- The Contract for the Eastbound Reroute has been awarded. The EBRR will allow Amtrak to bypass a significant portion of the Interlocking and place trains on the primary rou...

Re: East Side Access NOT LIRR

 by jlr3266 ¦  Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:18 pm ¦  Forum: Long Island Rail Road (LIRR) ¦  Topic: East Side Access NOT LIRR ¦  Replies: 78 ¦  Views: 10914

The C3 is indeed about 17" taller than an M1-M9, and it is about 3" taller than the 63rd St Tunnel. However, that ignores Dynamic effects. A Dynamic Clearance for a C3 would likely be more than 9" too high for the existing tunnel.

Re: East Side Access NOT LIRR

 by jlr3266 ¦  Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:04 pm ¦  Forum: Long Island Rail Road (LIRR) ¦  Topic: East Side Access NOT LIRR ¦  Replies: 78 ¦  Views: 10914

Sunnyside Station never moved. It was never capable of allowing a transfer for ESA. That was always intended to be at Jamaica.

Re: East Side Access NOT LIRR

 by jlr3266 ¦  Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:50 am ¦  Forum: Long Island Rail Road (LIRR) ¦  Topic: East Side Access NOT LIRR ¦  Replies: 78 ¦  Views: 10914

Sunnyside Station is located past the ESA tunnels and could never serve as a connection between NYP and GCT trains. It was originally included in ESA to garner local Queens support. Once Amtrak refused to stop at it, it was doomed, although recent changes to the LIC area may reawaken a Sunnyside Sta...

Re: Bridge depth

 by jlr3266 ¦  Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:07 pm ¦  Forum: General Class I and II Discussion ¦  Topic: Bridge depth ¦  Replies: 4 ¦  Views: 868

Direct fixation, or ballasted track? Are through girders allowed? What roadway headroom requirement is there?

Re: The East Side Access Project Discussion (ESA)

 by jlr3266 ¦  Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:36 pm ¦  Forum: Long Island Rail Road (LIRR) ¦  Topic: The East Side Access Project Discussion (ESA) ¦  Replies: 1157 ¦  Views: 377681

To be fair, the C3's barely fit into the tunnels to NYP. While the height seems only a few inches more than an M7/M9, the wide, flat roof is a problem in the curves. About the deep caverns in Manhattan, the option for a flat eight would have required extensive underpinning of GCT, the Park Ave Tunne...

Re: Why doesn't Amtrak have more stations around NYC?

 by jlr3266 ¦  Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:24 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: Why doesn't Amtrak have more stations around NYC? ¦  Replies: 66 ¦  Views: 8078

The Sunnyside Station was added to ESA at the request of the local LIC politician at the time. It does not actually serve trains to GCT as it is located west of the ESA revenue track approaches. Amtrak said it would never stop there (like Secaucus) because they did not want another stop like West Ph...

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