RS11's?

Can someone tell me how many RS11's CR had in service and when the last one was retired? Where they all ex-Pennsy or were they newer?

you can start here

http://crcyc.railfan.net/locos/alco/rs11/rs11.html

I shot the 7625 picture, note the Conrail, Penn Central, and Pennsylvania lettering

Ok, thank you. A few searches cmae up with nothing.....

Many of the RS-11's that were of PC/PRR and NYC Heritage were converted to Conrail MT-4 yard slugs. The only low hood RS-11's to be entered on the CONRAIL Fleet came off of the Lehigh Valley These units were transferred to the D&H who ran them for a while then some of sold some of them to the Arkansas & Missouri Railroad which still operates today.

scharnhorst wrote:Many of the RS-11's that were of PC/PRR and NYC Heritage were converted to Conrail MT-4 yard slugs. The only low hood RS-11's to be entered on the CONRAIL Fleet came off of the Lehigh Valley These units were transferred to the D&H who ran them for a while then some of sold some of them to the Arkansas & Missouri Railroad which still operates today.

almost, but not quite.
yes, the low-hood RS11's from the Lehigh Valley did go to Conrail, (and some high-hood RS11's from the LV as well)
Four low-hood and six high-hood RS11's from the LV.

but those werent the units that went to the D&H and then to the A&M.
Those are the LV Alco C420's.
The C420's are Centuries, larger and newer than the RS11..but a similar look at first glance to the low-hood RS11's..
eight of the LV's twelve C420's still survive today.

No LV RS11's survived.
Conrail converted a few to slugs, the rest scrapped.
The slugs are still around..

http://www.frontiernet.net/~scottychaos ... tives.html

Scot

Reference the Lehigh Valley Railroad high nose RS11 units: 7640 through 7644 were ex-PRR 8640 through 8644. Unit 7648 was ex-PRR 8648. All were leased from the PRR in November, 1964 and all were upgraded to 2000 hp by the PRR shortly prior to the LVRR lease, which made them technically RS11u units. All went to ConRail on 01 April 1976. The 7644 was retired on 16 March 1981 and was sold to Midwest Steel for scrap in August of that year. The other 5 units were rebuilt as MT-4 slugs in 1979: the 7640 became MT-4 1023; the 7641 MT-4 1016; the 7642 MT-4 1015; the 7643 MT-4 1017 and the 7648 MT-4 1013. All were retired as of 30 October, 1995. The 1016 was scrapped at Dennison, OH in August, 1996. The 1013 was sold to the Juniata Terminal in May, 1996 then possibly to the Longhorn Rwy. in January, 1999. All info from X-2200 S.

The PRR units were leased their entire time on the LV, and carried 8640-series numbers for a short time. All of these units were renumbered as part of the preparation for the PC merger in 1968.

The PRR had stock control of the LV during this era, so it was almost like leasing the units to themselves.

7646 and at least one other PRR unit were also leased until about 1968, but were not repainted or altered otherwise.


The RS11s were built 1958-1961 or 1962. Conrail units came from the following original purchasers: LV - PRR - NYC - NH. A couple of them did escape intact, Danbury Railroad Museum has an ex-NH survivor that came from a Georgia gravel pit. Supposedly they also had an ex-NYC unit and it was torched fairly recently. Most Conrail 4-axle Alcos were retired en-masse in 1981, although a few six-axle units survived a few more years.


Interestingly, NYC turned down a second RS11 order after it was built and they were resold to the D&H, at least one of these units ran into the very late 1990s. Supposedly that's where the D&H lightning stripe scheme comes from, it uses one of the same dividing stripes from the NYC scheme.

Possibly the confusion on the LV RS11s and C420s could stem from the D&H rebuild of wrecked ex-LV 410, during which time it got a replacement low hood from a D&H factory low-hood RS11 or RS36, with the small corner notches.

Lehigh Valley Railroad Alco RS11 units 7640-7644 and 7648 all had builder dates of 11/57 per X-2200 S Issue 77.

lvrr325 wrote:
Possibly the confusion on the LV RS11s and C420s could stem from the D&H rebuild of wrecked ex-LV 410, during which time it got a replacement low hood from a D&H factory low-hood RS11 or RS36, with the small corner notches.

Here is a shot of 410 with her RS11 nose:

http://www.bridge-line.org/blhs/images/ ... hl_410.jpg

sadly 410 is no longer with us.

Scot

Neglected to mention earlier that four low-nose RS11 units went to ConRail from the Lehigh Valley, these being numbers 400-403, built 03/60. They became ConRail 7609-7612, but the 402 never received the assigned CR number prior to being retired in October, 1976. All four units were scrapped by late 1980.