• Rocky Mountaineer

  • Pertaining to all railroading subjects, past and present, in Canada. For specific railroad questions, see Fallen Flags and Active Railroads categories.
Pertaining to all railroading subjects, past and present, in Canada. For specific railroad questions, see Fallen Flags and Active Railroads categories.

Moderator: Ken V

  by Gilbert B Norman
 
July TRAINS has an informative article regarding the D&RGW line to Moab over which this proposed service would operate.

The photos depict a very scenic line; also shows that the UP operates a fair number of trains over it.

Bets, anyone, if this ARM actually operates?
  by Gilbert B Norman
 
Here is a further detailed article:

London Daily Mail Courtesy of MSN

Fair Use:
The inaugural run of the Rocky Mountaineer in the United States barreled its way across the stunning landscapes of two Far Western states as the Canadian company known for luxury overnight train travel debuted its service on August 15.

The two-day luxury excursion between Denver, Colorado, and Moab, Utah - Rockies to the Red Rocks - took guests on a journey along the Colorado River and through canyons with steep rugged walls. The custom-fitted train stops for the night at the approximate halfway point in Glenwood Springs, Colo., where the route features mountain vistas, desert cliffs and rock formations.
Suggestion: if you go and they offer a choice of Glenwood Springs hotels, select The Hotel Denver if you want a "room with a view".
  by Gilbert B Norman
 
So this is a one-way junket on the train, leaving a passenger on their own to find their way home or to Moab?

Now with only "two a day" for flights on puddle jumpers at that, as well as only one "four star" (Hilton) in town, that will be "sport" for these folks, while maybe not to the level as those in the TV show "The White Lotus", who are used to being pampered.

Now of interest to me is how did Rocky Mountain get on to UP's rails? OK, they negotiated a bilateral agreement; but are they on there at Amtrak's bargain basement rates thereby being complicit with a Taking, or they paying something that I consider fair - the opportunity cost of whatever train the UP (or BNSF with their trackage rights) cannot run account their usage of the tracks?

Of further interest is by whom and under what Agreement are the Operating crews employed?

Enquiring mind wants to know.
  by Gilbert B Norman
 
A good point, Mr. ExCon.

Must say that TV clip certainly suggests the journey is originating somewhere other than DUT.
  by ExCon90
 
I see on Trains Newswire that the train left from the UP yard at 36th Ave. and Wazee St. and will continue to do so until RM has negotiated the use of DUT with its owner, Denver Transportation District. Anybody know the ins and outs of that? I suppose the issue of liability will be involved.
  by Old Muley
 
I would like to know where the train departs / arrives in Moab. The line is no where near the center of town. Closest access to Moab seems to be the Uranium Mill Tailings Remedial Action site. This also appears to be the biggest customer on the line. RM has to have access to a siding somewhere to service and board the train, obviously. Anybody know ?
  by Gilbert B Norman
 
This is "sport"; go to RMT's site to find out a schedule of when they will operate and you get nothing.

Also of interest; you want a brochure? While there is a tab marked "download brochure", but if you want one, you must REGISTER. They also state "account COVID" no printed brochures at this time.

I"m hardly about to register; lest the "clickbait bombardments" begin. I'm really starting to wonder just how frequent, if at all, they presently operate?

Now why all this interest on the part of one who has stated he longer considers a long distance journey " ecstatic"? I am giving some tentative thought of a road trip to Salt Lake City during second half this month. While the Utah Symphony (I went several times when I was stationed at Hill AFB) is performing, the Mormon Tabernacle Choir is not. My return (out would be I-80 with overnights York NE and Little America WY) along US6 to I-70 (more or less following the D&RGW), I'd leave SLC early and divert to Moab (never went there during my 68-69 HAFB tour). If I knew if RMT was running, I wouldn't be above a little "chasing" (don't think it would be too difficult) with a tie up that night in Grand Jct. My last trip that way during '14, I tied up at The Hotel Denver in Glenwood Springs. However since then, it looks like it's become an "overgrown quainty B&B" with canopied four poster beds AND $250ni rates. Sorry, no thanks on that - a $150ni "best surprise is no surprise" Express or Hampton is more to my liking.

That my 60th Reunion at South Kent School was CXD and my Sister's refusal to VAX scrubbed that road trip, the urge to take one while I still can, is still there. If this Utah trip appears "just too much" after starting it, well I just turn back losing nothing more than maybe a hotel CX charge.
  by cjvrr
 
The train de-boards at a location called 7 Mile. This is where Route 313 cross the tracks. Which is north of the uranium tailings cleanup. Typically tank cars of salt water are unloaded at 7 mile for roadway dust control. Also further down the line, at the end, is a potash facility.

From 7 mile the riders are bussed to Moab.

Old Muley wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:20 am I would like to know where the train departs / arrives in Moab. The line is no where near the center of town. Closest access to Moab seems to be the Uranium Mill Tailings Remedial Action site. This also appears to be the biggest customer on the line. RM has to have access to a siding somewhere to service and board the train, obviously. Anybody know ?
  by Gilbert B Norman
 
The Googlemobile has been by that spot; UT 313 and the tracks.

Kind of at a loss as to how they would alight elderly, and possibly disabled, passengers there; let alone where busses would park to handle the transfer, which of course includes luggage.