Drewrail wrote:Hello To all members,
I have a couple of questions about the freight traffic and routes between Indianapolis and St. Louis on the NYC and PRR during the pre and post merger era.
What types of industries were located on these lines and what car type did they use for their transportation? Also, I know that each line might be different but were trains handled with only one crew between these two points? Were their any yards located between these two points?
I’m looking to model one of these two lines in a post merger setting. Any information you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
We're going back almost 35-years here, some info may be sketchy at best.
In 1969 after returning from the military I worked the Rose-Lake (ESTL) to Effingham local. Effingham, by the way, is the only yard on the former PRR side between Terre Haute and Rose Lake. We worked a Pet-Milk and a organ (musical) facility at Highland, IL. Around Greenville, IL. was a ball-bearing plant. I'm sure there were other industries, I can't recall them though.
In 1972 I was furloughed from Rose Lake and went to Terre Haute and Avon to work. At that time the old Big-4 side was used for both manifest and intermodal trains. Yards west of Terre Haute on the green side: Paris, Mattoon, Hillsboro and Worcester (SP?), IL. Worcester was just north of where Lenox Tower is. In 1974 I worked a six-day per week local that ran from Hillsboro to Worcester and returned to Hillsboro. I recall no crew-changes between Avon and ESTL, on either side, for thru-freight. The distance from Avon to Rose Lake was around 241-miles. Down the green side, 260?. I guess this was before the track started deteriorating as I can recall 6-7 hour trips on manifest trains on a regular basis.
The old flexi-van trains ran the 240-miles from Rose Lake to Avon in a tad bit more than 4-hours. That's almost a 60-MPH average, respectable time for sure. Sorry I can't provide more info.
Could be the Pet-Milk facility was in Greenville? And I also seem to recall a box-board plant in Highland. 1969 was too many years ago.........
I just drove over by the old box-board plant. (M.P. 209)There are remnants of a stub-track into the facility. Directly across from it is the organ plant. There's no evidence that the old PRR ever serviced this spot. I apologize for the misinformation. Could be possible the mind is the first thing to go.