by Tommy Meehan
[I moved this message from the thread about backing up trains as it really is a separate topic/question etc.]
I've ridden a lot of suburban trains (I never worked for a railroad) including many MU trains that have overrun stations during leaf season. So now, with the temperature in the 90s, the humidity the same and thunderstorms rumbling across the sky, when would be a better time to discuss Fall? Nice crisp cool Fall!!
There was one incident in particular I've always wondered about. It was a station overrun on Septa, also involving a backup move with a loaded passenger train.
It was on a misty fall day on Septa's ex-Reading line to West Trenton. Once we got on the Trenton branch I could feel the train sliding when they tried to stop at stations. After the first couple stations it was obvious the engineer was braking sooner and more gradually than normal. The rail must've been very slippry. Then we missed a station by a good couple of train lengths. The engineer got almost zero braking judging by the way we rolled through the station. In fact, not being too familar with the W. Trenton line I wondered at first if this was a closed station or a flag stop. It seemed like the engineer wasn't tryng to stop, just rolling through at reduced speed. But the whole time I'm sure he was on the brake.
Anyway, we finally stopped and (riding in the front car) I could hear the engineer getting busy on the radio. Then the conductor came up shaking his head. I heard him tell the engineer that it was a tough break to work all day and "have this happen" on his last trip. "What did they say," the conductor asked? The engineer said 'nothing yet.' Then the conductor stepped into the head vestibule, the door closed and I couldn't hear anymore. After a few more minutes the conductor walked back through the train (it was only two cars), the brakes finally released and we began backing up. That's when I realized we had missed the station by a considerable distance. In fact I believe we even had to back across a grade crossing.
I've always wondered what the crew seemed so concerned about? What the procedure is on Septa. I got the feeling the engineer was......what? Maybe have to go see the trainmaster before going home? Only thing I can think of. As a working guy, I hope that was all there was to it anyway.
I've ridden a lot of suburban trains (I never worked for a railroad) including many MU trains that have overrun stations during leaf season. So now, with the temperature in the 90s, the humidity the same and thunderstorms rumbling across the sky, when would be a better time to discuss Fall? Nice crisp cool Fall!!
There was one incident in particular I've always wondered about. It was a station overrun on Septa, also involving a backup move with a loaded passenger train.
It was on a misty fall day on Septa's ex-Reading line to West Trenton. Once we got on the Trenton branch I could feel the train sliding when they tried to stop at stations. After the first couple stations it was obvious the engineer was braking sooner and more gradually than normal. The rail must've been very slippry. Then we missed a station by a good couple of train lengths. The engineer got almost zero braking judging by the way we rolled through the station. In fact, not being too familar with the W. Trenton line I wondered at first if this was a closed station or a flag stop. It seemed like the engineer wasn't tryng to stop, just rolling through at reduced speed. But the whole time I'm sure he was on the brake.
Anyway, we finally stopped and (riding in the front car) I could hear the engineer getting busy on the radio. Then the conductor came up shaking his head. I heard him tell the engineer that it was a tough break to work all day and "have this happen" on his last trip. "What did they say," the conductor asked? The engineer said 'nothing yet.' Then the conductor stepped into the head vestibule, the door closed and I couldn't hear anymore. After a few more minutes the conductor walked back through the train (it was only two cars), the brakes finally released and we began backing up. That's when I realized we had missed the station by a considerable distance. In fact I believe we even had to back across a grade crossing.
I've always wondered what the crew seemed so concerned about? What the procedure is on Septa. I got the feeling the engineer was......what? Maybe have to go see the trainmaster before going home? Only thing I can think of. As a working guy, I hope that was all there was to it anyway.