by Henry Kisor
The following Washington Post article from today about the huge expansion of freight railroads has implications for Amtrak:
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Gilbert B Norman wrote:Before this interesting material gets shipped off to another Forum, allow me to note that the best performing security I presently hold in a well-diversified portfolio is BNI up 10.8% YTD Mar 31. In second place is NSC up 7.7%.To stay partly on topic, I put my money where my mouth was a number of years ago on BNI. Partly because I liked what they were doing on the TRANSCON and other work and because they seemed Amtrak friendly.
By contrast, the S&P 500 is down 9.9% YTD Mar 31.
Jersey Jeff wrote: "The railroads charge four times as much to ship a carload of grain from Bismarck, N.D., to Minneapolis as they do to ship it from Minneapolis to Chicago, although the distances are about equal. The reason: Shippers have only one choice of railroad out of Bismarck."
Sen. Byron L. Dorgan (D-N.D.), a co-sponsor of both bills, cites an example: The railroads charge four times as much to ship a carload of grain from Bismarck, N.D., to Minneapolis as they do to ship it from Minneapolis to Chicago, although the distances are about equal. The reason: Shippers have only one choice of railroad out of Bismarck.Ah, a politician said it, that makes sense. I'd think a number of factors play into it, including what the market will bear. Other factors woudl be volume and maintenance requirements. If $100 million in maintenance and capital supports 50 trains day while the same $100 million supports 10 trains a day in Bizmarck, that woudl change the cost equation. Don't know if it does, but it's certainly something missing from Dorgan's "analysis." As for ADM, how about they send us all rebate checks for the profits they receive on ethanol while driving up our food costs.
The railroad industry calls it "differential pricing," and "it occurs every day in the airline industry," said Edward R. Hamberger, president of the railroad trade group.
David Benton wrote:..are there any examples of the railroads winning back traffic form road transport on a regional basis . Say Atlanta to Chicago ?.Mr. Benton, the remark that "the railroads are back in the game in spite of themselves" has been heard about the industry more than once. In short, I don't think there have been any successful marketing efforts to WIN shippers back from highway transport.
Gilbert B Norman wrote:Mr. Noah, have you noticed where and when the current CSX ads appear? They air on stations such as CNBC and Fox News....on radio during the 5AM hour. They are pitched to investors, and hardly the consumer public.I don't watch either CNBC or Fox News and I've seen the CSX ads (I can't remember what station though). when was the last time you saw a trucking ad?
A train can haul a ton of freight 423 miles on one gallon of diesel fuel, about a 3-to-1 fuel efficiency advantage over 18-wheelers, and the railroad industry is increasingly touting itself as an eco-friendly alternative. Trucking firms also use the rail lines; UPS is the railroad industry’s biggest customerhttp://www.temple-telegram.com/story/lo ... 4/22/48819
Suburban Station wrote:..when was the last time you saw a trucking ad?Can't recall that one.