R&DB wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:41 am
You are never going to get heavy rail traffic into the old Ciba site. Route 37 traffic precludes any rail movements across it between 5am and midnight. Transload facility? Heavy rail and truck traffic. The locals will never allow it. Route 37 is already a bad driving experience, a transload and rail traffic would only make it worse. I know, I live 1 long block from it.
12-5AM could work honestly. A lot of the yards/intermodal facilities I've stayed near while traveling had the most trains between those hours. There's also already plenty of truck traffic on that route.
Let's also not forget that it wasn't terribly long ago that Ciba Geigy was still there and receiving frequent shipments. I'd also imagine it would depend how fast the train was going into Ciba-Geigy, which wouldn't be very fast since it would be at the tail end of the trip. Maybe if you get it to go 25-40 MPH somewhere, make the trackage inside the facility long and whatnot so it would have more time to stop, it could work.
@Bracdude181
I would like to see this proposal the mayor put through. How the hell would they even get to downtown Toms River? The place is super dense, you'd be lucky to get its terminus at the Park and Ride. I think the skyscrapers wouldn't be so bad. Toms River and Lakewood need to change their zoning laws so they allow high rises, there's no other realistic way they'll be able to stop/mitigate the exploding population.
Can you tell me who is telling you that C&D is thinking of backing out? I'm almost certain this deal they entered has locked them in.
@CharlieL
Perhaps something happening on the TRIT first would be the thing that gets service below Lakewood rolling. Right now, there really isn't any demand below Lakewood, besides the fabled sand trains. Until there's some sort of demand somewhere, that ain't happening.