PL42AC thread

[NJRAILNUT]

Believe it or not, there are even plans to bring the 4109 back to revenue service, amazingly!

4109 is the Geep that was recently repainted into the blue CNJ scheme, correct? I had assumed they would use this in revenue service, but I take it from your comment that there are still mechanic issues to work out before this happens?

Thanks.

[blockline4180]

Believe it or not, there are even plans to bring the 4109 back to revenue service, amazingly!

4109 is the Geep that was recently repainted into the blue CNJ scheme, correct? I had assumed they would use this in revenue service, but I take it from your comment that there are still mechanic issues to work out before this happens?

Thanks.

Correct. Needs to have the HEP issue addressed (replaced or repaired?) and some other light mechanical work needs to be performed before it can pull passengers... From what I read it does have PTC installed though.

[ryanov]

Did I read that right, ApproachMedium, that there's talk of reactivating the Comet IV cabs?

[ApproachMedium]

Things are being tested. It would be stupid NOT to. The things are there. I still to this point do not understand why they are not using them with the legacy locomotives that they know they work with. The place is always short cab cars. I could only hope to see with this push to reactivate all the mothballed or sidelined stuff could bring back some Comet 3s as PP trailer cars, or even at least for dedicated meadowlands trains.

[nightmare403]

i dont think they gonna reactivate the IV cabs i looks blind

[ApproachMedium]

That car that was blinded was done a while ago.

[sullivan1985]

The Comet IVs are dead as cab cars. They will never lead a revenue train again. With even more MLs coming there will be more comets displaced making more CVs cabs available. The CIV doesn't stand a chance.

[pateljones]

Dutchrailnut, see page 28
https://d2g63oyneaimm8.cloudfront.net/s ... Agenda.pdf

[ApproachMedium]

The number of lies in there about the dual modes is astounding. The dual modes are forever restricted to 90mph because of their weight and will never do 125mph. The higher speed diesel engine is NOT an advantage. Its a disadvantage, these engines SUCK fuel up on a layover way faster than a normal diesel locomotive does. Somebody up there is very misinformed and is pulling the wool over the eyes of the public

[Dcell]

Why wouldn't these units idle on electric power while on layover? In diesel only territory, why wouldn't the units be plugged into wayside power?

[ApproachMedium]

Why wouldn't these units idle on electric power while on layover? In diesel only territory, why wouldn't the units be plugged into wayside power?

Because you cannot run in and out of hoboken on electric, because putting pans up or down can cause PI in the termainal which damages the concrete from the booms. Raritan sets only switch to electric if they run to NYP, they dont bother for layovers. Same with the bayhead shuttles, the mechanical locks the pans out so you cant even mode change for the layover. . The only time they will put them on wayside power is for overnight layovers, of many hours or more. typical day time turns that are only an hour or two they do not plug in.

Until they run the wire out to Secacus you will not have dual mode trains destined for hoboken running on electric of laying over on electric.

[Dcell]

Thanks for the explanation.

[lensovet]

I appreciate the explanation too, but that's a pretty sorry excuse. TBH I'm surprised it's even legal, given that NJ is CARB state.

[ApproachMedium]

Has nothing to do with legality, it has to do with an operational situation. If you cannot change modes in the terminal platform area, you cant have a train come down on electric that turns to head up the main bergen or pascack line. you would then have to pull the train out of the depot, stop it, mode change and hope it works right before you head up the diesel lines.

[lensovet]

I was referring more about not using wayside power.