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Discussion related to Amtrak also known as the National Railroad Passenger Corp.

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  by STrRedWolf
eolesen wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:37 am The same Amtrak with literally billions of liability for old bridges and right away in the Northeast, and tunnels too?

Let's be clear, the recent problems in San Clemente are from above the tracks. That's not the railroads responsibility.

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That's for the lawyers to sort out.
  by eolesen
Not really. We just saw the same story unfold in Albany.

San Clemente has always been a geological disaster waiting to happen. They built up to the edge on unstable ground 70 years ago, and nobody thought to keep a buffer zone because all the people with the money to buy up that land wanted their Ocean View. The bluffs in the State Park zone are probably the only safe area not in danger of imminent collapse because they have no buildings, but even there you still see many collapses where idiot hikers ignore the fences and dozens of signs saying 'unstable - don't hike here'....

San Clemente State Park used to be one of our favorite places to camp when we lived in Tucson, and then my son moved to San Onofre for a couple of years.

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  by Jeff Smith
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/co ... -suspended
Temporary wall proposed to protect railroad tracks from San Clemente landslide

A temporary wall will be built to protect the railroad tracks from the “still slowly creeping” landslide in San Clemente that has suspended passenger rail service between San Diego and Orange counties, a transportation executive said this week.
Cracks in the slope show layers of clay and beach sand, so there’s “exceptionally low cohesiveness of the soil,” he said in a presentation Monday to the OCTA board of directors. There’s also water seeping from the slide, which is being investigated by San Clemente city officials.

No estimate was available of when passenger service might resume. Periodic freight trains continue through the area at speeds of 10 mph to 15 mph.
  by Jeff Smith
https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/a ... nia-events
Amtrak Is Adjusting the Pacific Surfliner Schedule for California’s Comic-Con & X Games

This July, California will draw crowds of fans to some of its most anticipated events. San Diego's iconic Comic-Con is coming back July 20, and the X Games California Finals are set to take place in Ventura from July 20 through July 23. And don't forget the start of the Del Mar Summer Racing Season, which will welcome racing aficionados on July 21.

For such big events, it's expected that huge crowds will take over Southern California, and luckily, Amtrak is ready to accommodate. After completing a railroad protection project by the San Clemente Pier, the company's Pacific Surfliner will finally get back to full daily train service through south Orange County starting Monday, July 17. In short, that means no more shuttle bus connection between Irvine and Oceanside, saving travelers some time and making their commute smoother.

To better serve the summer event crowds, the Pacific Surfliner will increase service by adding three trains to the schedule from July 21 through July 23. All additional trains will make all the stops in between the departing station and destination. Here are the schedule details:
  by Jeff Smith
Tunnels: Fox5SanDiego - STAY CLASSY!

Train tunnels plan to move tracks from bluffs one step closer to reality
With the move, the tracks will be upgraded to create a double track, so trains don’t have to wait for one another to pass, plus creating straighter tracks, both would cut down on travel time. The plan details speeds up to 110 mph.

“The kind of high-speed transit that’s provided on the East Coast,” SANDAG Deputy CEO Coleen Clementson said. “There’s been a lot of discussion around a tunnel in Del Mar, but really what that tunnel is about, is a larger project, it’s the whole rail corridor from downtown San Diego that goes up the coast, all the way to San Luis Obispo.”
The two frontrunners so far, according to SANDAG, are the plans that run along Camino Del Mar and Crest Canyon. Both plans include a 33-foot diameter tunnel 290 feet below the ground.
  by west point
It appears that either persons putting forward these different tunnels do not realize what the tunnel project will cost or do not want to tell others. Tunnel over a mile long is going to require an escape tunnel with access every ~800 feet. Escape tunnel needs only 10 - 12 feet in diameter. It can be built first to be a pilot tunnel to find any problems with soils.