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  by dinwitty
fast reply, the NPR cars are going to East Troy while Bobs cars are going to Michigan City, exact time-dates he doenst know probably based on moving schedules etc etc.

I didnt think they could stay at the steel mill, but a kind gesture by the Steel mill and to be thanked for that.
  by byte
This has been in the works for at least a couple weeks now. No names mentioned (to respect privacy) but the engineer on at least the East Troy move is one VERY familiar with traction preservation in the area and the routing of the move will (as much as possible) be on CN rails.
  by dinwitty
Two are mine (#s 3 & 5); five are National Park Service (#s 6, 23, 33, 107, 203). They are being stored at Mittal Steel at Indiana Harbor. There is no public access to them there. I have no idea how long we will be welcome at Mittal, but we hope and pray that we will have ownership of embargoed track in South Bend, Indiana, in August.

thats from Bob Harris an email a long time back.

I'll ask him a few more Q's
  by dinwitty
Thats the project of having Notre Dame return to rail car coal loads.

Getting curiouser now whats happenning, as Bob just mentioned the NPS cars going to East Troy is permanent, as NPS and Michigan City dumped whatever project they had in 2008. Thats direct from Bob.

He says he has some project in Montana, dunno whats up.

I'll keep asking.
  by dinwitty
looks like the politicalness wins again as Bob seems not up to persuing the project.

The line unless something happens will probably dissappear.

There goes the neigborhood again.
  by dinwitty
CSS&SB702 wrote:Embargoed track in South Bend?? Could you elaborate on what that is?
NS still owns the line to the Notre Dame campus, but it has no direct rail connections unless like what Bob came up with to reconnect rail deliveries, which is technically possible.

http://maps.google.com/maps?num=50&hl=e ... a=N&tab=wl

I'm looking at the ND campus and re-following that line
  by justalurker66
The line in South Bend is in poor condition and would have to be rebuilt ... especially at crossings and where neighboring land owners have taken over the space. It is a railroad from nowhere to nowhere at the moment.
BTW: For a different view you might want to try Bing's maps.
http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qyhcb6 ... IN%2046530

Here's one particular bad spot:
http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qydgzy ... IN%2046530

As far as the cars ... is there a definitive list somewhere of where all the old cars have gone? I've been able to find a few through museum sites and mentioned in various threads but has anyone kept track of where all of the old cars have gone?
Last edited by justalurker66 on Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
  by byte
Try this: http://www.bera.org/cgi-bin/pnaerc-quer ... agelen=200

That's part of the practically-definitive database fellow IRM volunteer (and RR.net poster) Frank Hicks has put together over the years. One thing which may be slightly inaccurate (maybe outdated is the right term) is the fact that at least the cars at IRM are no longer owned by the Park Service. This transfer of ownership to IRM officially went through within the past year or so (according to a couple of electric car guys I had dinner with about two weeks ago, after our Saturday out in Union) and although there was never really any question that the cars might leave the property, this is still good because it means the cars can "accept" donations earmarked toward them. Previously it wasn't possible to have a fund setup for them because they weren't museum-owned cars
  by dinwitty
wonder who authoritized the land owners to go ripping into the railroad, NS should be the one complaining...but they seem to be not
  by justalurker66
dinwitty wrote:wonder who authoritized the land owners to go ripping into the railroad, NS should be the one complaining...but they seem to be not
NS doesn't want the railroad ... they certainly are not going to spend much time defending it.
It would take a lot to get a train through there (more than just a reconnection to the NS mainline).