• NYC "Lines" and "System"

  • Discussion relating to the NYC and subsidiaries, up to 1968. Visit the NYCS Historical Society for more information.
Discussion relating to the NYC and subsidiaries, up to 1968. Visit the NYCS Historical Society for more information.

Moderator: Otto Vondrak

  by NaDspr
 
Can anyone provide the year the NYC changed from New York Central Lines to New York Central System?
Thanks.
  by BaltOhio
 
I believe it was 1936, when the Central leased the MC, Big Four, and some other subsidiaries. This was also the time that locomotives were renumbered into a common NYCS scheme. Actually, "New York Central Lines," as used in advertising and on equipment, applied only to the Midwestern subsidiaries that were subsequently leased. Between Buffalo and Chicago on the former (pre-1914) NYC&HR and LS&MS, it was simply "New York Central."
  by mtuandrew
 
This seems as good a place as any to ask: several maps of the NYC Lines and contemporary railroads note the Central's west-of-Buffalo lines as NYC (C), NYC (W), and NYC (M). NYC (M) seems to denote (M)ichigan Central lines on the maps, but what did C and W stand for, and were there other letters in parentheses?
  by ExCon90
 
As far as I can recall, C stood for CCC&StL, or Big Four, and W for New York Central Lines West of Buffalo; I can't think of any other letters.
  by Noel Weaver
 
BaltOhio wrote:I believe it was 1936, when the Central leased the MC, Big Four, and some other subsidiaries. This was also the time that locomotives were renumbered into a common NYCS scheme. Actually, "New York Central Lines," as used in advertising and on equipment, applied only to the Midwestern subsidiaries that were subsequently leased. Between Buffalo and Chicago on the former (pre-1914) NYC&HR and LS&MS, it was simply "New York Central."
I have passenger timetables from 1932 when it was "New York Central Lines" and from 1938 when it was "New York Central System" so I suspect 1936 is when it happened.
Noel Weaver
  by Cactus Jack
 
Somehow November 1935 sticks in my head when the change was made from Lines to System, but at this point I can't prove it.
  by NYCSUMMIT
 
According to the calendars printed by the NYC Historical Society the date was July 1, 1935