west point wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:47 pm
Eletricron: You are making a mistake. Of course some will go with your 3 hour post. Others will not. Others will have separate limits. Personally I will not fly to any location that I can drive in 6 - 7 hours or less. If I can take a train I will if I have to drive more than 3-1/2hours. So people are different .
Market share I'm discussing is between trains and planes - not cars. Cars throw an entirely different competition into the mix because they are private vehicles and do not report fares nor seats sold. DOTs may count the number of axles at a given point in a freeway, but unless the bean counters stop and ask every car and truck where it was driving from and where it is going, pretty difficult to count specifics.
Let's ask Google how many drivers drive the 239 miles of I-45 between Dallas and Houston.
Not interested in crashes and fatalities, so guess what pops up on page 2? Texas Central web page.....
http://www.texascentral.com/wp-content/ ... ochure.pdf
Realize these statistics are being used to gather popular political support for the HSR train.
"Each year, roughly 14 million journeys are made between Greater Houston and North Texas. Calculated using a variety of data sources, including traffic count data from TxDOT, Bluetooth data from TTI and cell phone data, this estimate includes all flights, bus journeys, and non-commercial/non-freight road traffic. Research indicates most journeys are made for personal reasons, nearly half of which are to visit friends and family. Other reasons for travel across the region include taking a vacation/weekend trip, going to a game or shopping. Trips for business are common, representing nearly 20% of all journeys, while students also represent a significant portion of the travel market between Houston and North Texas. More than 90% of journeys between Houston and North Texas are made by road, typically using Interstate-45 or the Western alternative route, which consists of a series of interstates, state highways, and farm to market roads. Drive times can range from 3.5 to 5.5 hours."
(Note: They are supposedly not counting semi-trucks on the freeway.)
So, 90% of 14 million calculates to 12.6 million journeys drive every year while only 1.4 million fly per Texas Central.
I have no idea when taking the slow trains or fast planes gets the majority market share over cars. It would be nice if there was a statistic showing that, can anyone find such a link?
How about this link? https://nypost.com/2019/05/17/why-three ... er-flying/
"The average American would happily add 6.5 hours to their travel time if it meant they could drive to their destination instead of flying."
So that means the sweet spot for driving market share wise is twice as long as riding a train, 6.5 hours vs 3 hours. How do you feel about that?