• New EL video

  • Discussion relating to the Delaware, Lackawanna & Western, the Erie, and the resulting 1960 merger creating the Erie Lackawanna. Visit the Erie Lackawanna Historical Society at http://www.erielackhs.org/.
Discussion relating to the Delaware, Lackawanna & Western, the Erie, and the resulting 1960 merger creating the Erie Lackawanna. Visit the Erie Lackawanna Historical Society at http://www.erielackhs.org/.

Moderator: blockline4180

  by njmidland
The Erie Lackawanna Dining Car Preservation Society is pleased to be offering RonRail’s new production, Our Memories of the Erie Lackawanna on an exclusive basis. Here is a summary of what's on here:

The DVD primarily covers the films of two railfans, Bob Underwood and Frank Mentone. Both of these gentleman narrate their segments, and the "connection" with the photographer is nicely done. The videos cover the very beginning of the EL - 1961-1963, chronologically arranged - and many diesels are wearing their original colors with EL diamonds. Most of the segments are done in NJ with some in PA and NY.

First up are various scenes from Frank Mentone, and mostly passenger: trains at Scranton station, flying over the DL&W cut-off (nifty! and great speed!), and a nice pace of the Phoebe Snow at what appears to be West Dewey Avenue in Wharton, NJ. Another scene of the train at Denville follows. Then we ride Train 1 west out of Hoboken, a nice tour of the line. Interspersed are off-train shots of other long-haul passenger trains in the same local around Jersey City/Kearny. A few glimpses are seen of PRR facilities at South Kearny, with GG1s and E44 electrics, as well as H&M trains in Harrison. The train continues west through Newark, the "Roseville Cut," Brick Church, Orange, South Orange, Maplewood, Millburn, Short Hills, and Summit. All throughout, lineside shots are interspersed in. The train continues on, passing all the stations to Dover. A large freight and a local are both passed at Dover. We keep heading west, and there's a moody lineside scene at what appears to be Chester Jct, where a pair of RS3's cross over. We then enter Lake Hopatcong, pass Port Morris, and head out onto the single track Cut-Off, entering Pennsylvania at Slateford Jct. We continue on to East Stroudsburg and up the Poconos and down into Scranton, where our trip ends.

We return to Dover to see the last run of the Phoebe Snow (with someone who looks a lot like Bob Pennisi taking photos as the camera pans away with the train!)

Next up is some material from Bob Underwood, taken at Millburn, showing the "New Yorker" (with several NKP sleepers!) and a series of runbys of MUs. A DL&W GP7 sneaks by with a pair of Boonton coaches, and another "New Yorker" (with more NKP sleepers). More MU's follow, then the Phoebe Snow. A pair of passing MU's (as seen from overhead) is next, with another Phoebe and then more MU's. An eastbound Phoebe with a UP runthrough car passes next.

The camera moves now to Mountain View, NJ, with an active diamond still showing trains on both lines here (DL&W Boonton Line, Erie NY&GL Branch) with a variety of F-units and former Erie GP7s on various passenger trains. Jumping to Dover, we see a DL&W RS3 leading the "Dover Roustabout," which Bob comments that it "always seemed to carry a Boonton coach in the consist" (anyone know why?) Now we jump to the Newark Branch at Belleville with an Erie RS3 leading two Stillwells, then again at Hawthorne. Returning to the DL&W side at Millburn, more thru-line passenger trains are seen.

Now we're at Hoboken, watching the evening rush leave (including two Erie RS3s racing to leave the station). We jump to Spring Valley, NY on the NJ&NY branch to see more former Erie RS3s and Stillwells. Next is an un-narrated but very interesting scene showing a DL&W RS3 shoving a boxcar and caboose while pulling an MU at Gladstone - the MU was involved in a wreck, apparently. Back at Millburn, more through-line trains. An MU at Denville, then back to Hoboken to see an interesting move: A baggage car attached to the end of an outbound MU train! More at Denville with an eastbound Phoebe Snow, and then the wyeing of a Boonton Line turn. A westbound Phoebe blows through Maplewood with a business car at the rear, then we see a Washington-bound train through Boonton (YAY! :), with Drew Chemical in the background. Next, Train 1203 is seen at Nyack on the Northern Branch.

Back to Hoboken to see more action. The 4 PM Sunday train is seen leaving with a GP7 and three RS3s to Suffern (possibly Port Jervis). Next, tugboats and ferries!

Now we start our ride on the SUSSEX BRANCH in 1962! We pass Port Morris Yard (still pretty busy) then enter the branch. Very bucolic scenery! One diamond is passed (NYS&W?), then we see the engine running around the train at Branchville to push the train back into the station. At the station, former Erie RS3 904 is seen picking up a Borden's milk car from the creamery there. The train leaves, passes the TINY Lafayette station, then passes Andover Junction. More farms and fields along the right-of-way follow (I can see why this branch has so many fans!), then we're back at Netcong. Once again, we pass the Port Morris yard with several units at the engine facility. The tower goes by, now the train heads east under catenary east of Dover. The train then ends up on the Boonton Line, and we end up passing Croxton, where we see the fleet of former NYO&W cabooses line up.

More MU's are seen at Millburn, as well as long-distance trains. A scene of westbound Train 43 at Denville, led by an A-B-A set of F3s, then another long-distance train passes Estling Lake, also at Denville. Now we're being chased by an Erie RS3 as we leave West End on a Boonton Line train. We pass the DL&W Paterson station, then enter the Sussex Branch again at Netcong. Up the branch we go again, passing Andover Jct. again. We see a roadside shot of a GP7 with two Boonton coaches on the Branch, coming and returning with milk cars on the rear. Back to Andover Junction again, and back onto the Boonton Line we go, crossing over the "high trestle" at West Paterson (neat!).

MU's again are seen at Convent Station, then we see a pair of MU's passing a freight at Murray Hill on the Gladstone Branch. Many more scenes follow on the Gladstone Branch, including a ride on a train.

After a few more scenes at Millburn once again, we jump to Scranton, where we see several DL&W H24-66s sitting around (some with EL "patch jobs", as well as EL-patched FT's. Now we ride Train 2 east out of Scranton, over the Delaware River. Then we see the grade crossing elimination project at South Paterson, NJ. Jumping to the DL&W Paterson station, we see a neat elevated view of it that I've never seen before, with a GP7 leaving with a short train. Another view in the Roseville Ave. cut in Newark, showing Train 1. Train 40 is seen arriving at Blairstown, then more Hoboken activity. Back to the Sussex Branch, where we see an "in your face" view of GP7 1405 coupling back up to our train during its run-around at Branchville, and then backing into the station. We see more trains at Millburn, including the eastbound "Lake Cities" with two NKP sleepers (and an IC-painted car that was most likely the DL&W "Kittatinny") Another ride on the Gladstone Branch (this one in winter) follows.

Next is a neat sequence showing passenger trains in the center of Passaic in 1963, shortly before these tracks were removed. A neat shot of the Erie track-inspection car zipping through here is also included! More action at Hoboken - PA's and GP7s, then to South Paterson to see the new changes there. Jumping to Passaic Park, we see the old swing span over the Passaic River with several commuter trains passing over it. In rapid sequence: PA at Paterson, ferries on the Hudson with a PRR sleeper at Hoboken, then an EL tug. A scene of four RS3s (!!!) and two Stillwells in Lake View, NJ (just south of Paterson) follows, and more trains through Passaic. Back to Hoboken with more thru-line trains, and then back to South Paterson with more commuter runs. MU's and thru-line trains on the M&E are next, then another ride down the Gladstone Branch, where we see some classic freight equipment at Gladstone.

We go to Dover now where we see a Roustabout with an H16-44 passing the tower, then another H16-44 shoving a Boonton coach past the tower. Then we go back to Hoboken, with lots more activity (amazing how many simultaneously moving trains you see here) More shots at Millburn (and yes, more NKP sleepers as well!) Denville with more thru trains (and more NKP sleepers, oh my!) We also see an excursion (with PRR coaches?)

More activity at the Mountain View station, with many commuter runs as well as a local freight. Another short jump back to another Sussex Branch train, then some trains at Orange, Millburn and Dover. A westbound is seen leaving Lake Hopatcong. More Sussex Branch stuff, with a train stopping the Andover station, and then heading back with a pair of milk cars (lineside views), then a from-train view of the Wharton station.

All in all, a worthwhile purchase (can't beat the bang-for-the-buck factor
here), and all videos directly help the ELDCPS and its Diner 741
restoration project! (so you can help put this diner back at these very locations). It can be purchased from the ELDCPS store at

  by Tri-State Tom
Paul -

" A baggage car attached to the end of an outbound MU train! "

That is a RARE shot caught on film....saw that at the old Lackawanna Terminal in Montclair back in the late 50's.


  by jmp883
Looks like a great DVD set!

It's just a shame that the Greenwood Lake Branch, especially north of Mountain View got very little railfan coverage. There are very few published pictures, either in print or on the web. I moved to Wanaque in 1973 and still remember playing on the elementary school playground when it was still all cinders with railroad spikes, pieces of rail, and tie plates all over the place. The concrete foundation of the water tank was also still in place. The roadbed was still largely clear and intact too, with ties and spikes still in many locations.

Times have changed.....I'm still in Wanaque almost 34 years later and almost all traces are gone. I just wish there was more of it documented...... :(