Discussion related to commuter rail and rapid transit operations in the Chicago area including the South Shore Line, Metra Rail, and Chicago Transit Authority.

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  by metraRI
 
I went out along SWS again tonight, hoping for a 185...no luck. SWS's 7 car set seems to get a new loco daily, while SWS's other sets keep the same loco. 113 replaced 182 today.

On another note, 407 seems to have made another move...back to RI. Though I have not seen it yet, it has been reported there.

  by metraRI
 
When was the last time 181-184 were used on a 9-10 car train on BNSF?

I ask this question because I'm looking at old movies from 2003 when the MP36's first went to BNSF. In 2003, they were not put on 10 car Naperville express trains, but 7 car local trains. In the MP36's place ran 181 and another time an 183 with another F40. It would be nice to see something like that again.

  by MetraRy
 
i just dont want to see the mp36's on any train

  by MetraBNSF
 
metraRI wrote:When was the last time 181-184 were used on a 9-10 car train on BNSF?

I ask this question because I'm looking at old movies from 2003 when the MP36's first went to BNSF. In 2003, they were not put on 10 car Naperville express trains, but 7 car local trains. In the MP36's place ran 181 and another time an 183 with another F40. It would be nice to see something like that again.
I can't remember the last time an F40PH-2 was on a BNSF train longer than 8 cars, but I remember a DVD produced by Railway Productions that showed the 140 series F40PH's on BNSF trains that appeared longer than 8 cars. From time to time a single F40PHM-2 will pull a 10-11 car train, but it doesn't happen too often. I've also noticed if a 10-11 car train gets an F40PHM-2, its usually 191, 195, 199, or 200 that gets assigned.

  by metraRI
 
142, 143, and 146 I think were the 140's on BNSF while the M's were being rebuilt, which had to be at least 3 years ago all ready. 142 and I think 146 also came to RI for the same reason.

Is there any reason why it is almost a guarantee for an MP36 to be assigned to the 11 car trains?
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  by AmtrakFan
 
Kyle,
There are always MP36's on the Naperville Express plus I did see 180-184 on a 10 Car Express once.

  by MetraRy
 
the only reason that i can think of for them to always be on the naperville express is because their excelleration is not that good. Naperville express only make 2 stops so it isnt that bad. When they were on the locals and on the expresses that made more stops the train always seemed to be running a couple minutes late by the time the final destination was reached.

  by metraRI
 
In the long run an MP36 will out run any other Metra locomotive.

Even with an F40, some BNSF trains still remain late en-route. For example #1253. I wonder if #1261 has ever made the scheduled 5:31 stop at Hinsdale on time.

The same thing happens to MP36's on RI. The branch is not the best place for an MP36, they seem to run late with that 30MPH speed limit.
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  by MetraRy
 
ya your prob right metrari. I don't think that hinsdale express has ever made it to hinsdale on time. I am pretty suprised that metra hasent just combined it with the 5:16 LaGrange express as both trains have numerous seats empty

  by MetraBNSF
 
I think the reason why BNSF trains #1253 and #1261 run late is because #1253 is poorly scheduled. #1253 departs 2 minutes after #1251 leaves. #1251 usually has an MP36 and pulls 10 cars to Downers Grove. By the time #1251 is out of Union Station, 3-4 minutes have passed. #1253 arrives in Hinsdale at 5:29, #1261 arrives in Hinsdale at 5:31. I see room for schedule improvement between the 4:36 and 5:00 departures.

  by metraRI
 
It would depend on what track the two trains leave CUS. If #1253 leaves from tracks 2, 4, 6, 8, or 10 and #1251 leaves from 12, 14, or 16 they should have no conflict with each other.

  by metra 613
 
MetraRy wrote:the only reason that i can think of for them to always be on the naperville express is because their excelleration is not that good. Naperville express only make 2 stops so it isnt that bad. When they were on the locals and on the expresses that made more stops the train always seemed to be running a couple minutes late by the time the final destination was reached.


Thank u. I am happing someone else knows that.

  by MetraBNSF
 
metraRI wrote:It would depend on what track the two trains leave CUS. If #1253 leaves from tracks 2, 4, 6, 8, or 10 and #1251 leaves from 12, 14, or 16 they should have no conflict with each other.
#1251 leaves from track 12. #1253 leaves from track 4. But both trains are routed onto the same track just out of Union Station. Recently, #1251 left right on time at 4:44, and #1253 left right at 4:46, but the train only pulled halfway out of the station and waited 2-3 min before it started moving.

  by metraRI
 
Is there any reason why #1251 doesn't go right onto the center track from the start?

I'm guessing Metra scheduled the trains so they would use the tracks below:
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  by MetraRy
 
not to get to far of the subject but the bn dosent seem to dispatch that well during afternoon rushhours either. For some reason there nolonger seems to be a frieght curfew. The 5:16 has been forced to follow the 5:08 local twice in the last two weeks because there is a frieght on the inbound main which forces the inbounds to run center track. Also trains after 5:30 always seem to be running 10 minutes late due to a late turn of equitment.
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