Discussion relating to the operations of MTA MetroNorth Railroad including west of Hudson operations and discussion of CtDOT sponsored rail operations such as Shore Line East and the Springfield to New Haven Hartford Line

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  by gregorygrice
Fan Railer wrote:Hearing stirrings about "odd" consists on trains 1731 and 1735 (am peak trains from New Canaan to GCT). Might be S cars in service; can anyone confirm?
I think you can confirm yourself :wink:
  by Fan Railer
LMAO... yes, yes I can =P
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 141c5cf5a5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aohYy4E24Dc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - 1752 departing Stamford
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd-WIx2tYZI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - Quick tour of 9464 @ GCT
Full ride from GCT to Stamford coming soon.
  by Fan Railer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOjC5vChpI0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Here's the full video clip showing the exterior of the car and a quick walk through of the interior of the car while at Grand Central Terminal, and then the ride from Grand Central to Stamford, with an unscheduled stop at Harlem - 125th Street to let a passenger who got on the wrong train off. The ride quality is so-so for a brand new car, but overall, very quiet (since the car is unpowered; has no traction motors / traction equipment). Happy hunting folks ;)
  by Fan Railer
If anyone was still curious as to the seating layout of the new M8 single trailer car, I was a bit bored today, so I modified the old Bombardier M7 seat plan. Have a gander :P
  by Rockingham Racer
How are the riders taking to these cars? Like 'em or not?
  by DutchRailnut
for riders they are same as other cars, so their opinion is same, their just quieter as there is no propulsion.
  by Gilbert B Norman
Mr. Railnut, well before your time, and likely anyone else save Messrs. Nelligan and Weaver, I can well recall the New Haven's 4000 and 4200 motor and trailer MU's. Given a choice, why anyone would sit in a motor unit escapes me.

However, I never had issue with the 4400's and beyond - including my "maiden voyage" in an M-8 last August, with regards to noise or vibration. I fail to see how there will be a "land rush" to these non-powered units.
  by Tadman
GIven the rivet-counter-level of differences between power/trailer cars, I can't see the average rider knowing how to spot a quieter trailer car. My dad once commented to me that motor cars were awfully loud on the South Shore (I believe the new gearmotors from the 2002-ish capital rebuild program accounted for this) and I suggested he ride the trailer, but aside from the single pan, blind ends, and 200-series numbers which he'll never remember, there is no spotting details. Further, the 200's have 3+2 seating which I'd rather not have unless I was on a very late train where i could spread out.
  by DutchRailnut
I think Tadd does this just to see if I notice the off topic BS, it is noted... ;-)
  by Tadman
DutchRailnut wrote:I think Tadd does this just to see if I notice the off topic BS, it is noted... ;-)
Ha! If I really wanted off-topic BS, I'd make you one of my drawings. Perhaps one of a bar car... hmm...

Naw, I was just trying to illustrate that the average jamoke will never be able to spot a trailer if they wanted to ride one for the sake of avoiding traction motor noise.
  by Backshophoss
Never say never,when there's a will,a way will be found.... :wink:
  by Travelsonic
Tadman wrote:GIven the rivet-counter-level of differences between power/trailer cars....
Well, I'd say the difference in the end of one of these vs the end of a pair isn't exactly small - I do differentiate between noticing it, and making a deal of any kind about it - if you're used to a pattern, and see something stick out, at least it would stick out in your mind, even if you don't ACT on that... heh...
  by hcobin
NTSB recommends stronger truck-mounting bolts be installed on M-8s after investigating Bridgeport wreck: http://tinyurl.com/qfur3f2
Also recommends higher strength standard for certain passenger car corner posts: http://tinyurl.com/k93akf9
  by DutchRailnut
NTSB can recommend but they are not a governing body, what would be next with those clowns corner post on box cars ??
the system is designed so cars do not derail and crash into each other , but then you get perfect storm.
how strong can you make plane to survive a crash but it no longer flies cause of weight ???
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