LIRR P72 coaches... where'd they go?

The Western Maryland Scenic Railroad is to paint their LIRR P72 into the red stripe parlor car livery thus making it one of a handful of P72s off of Long Island to be in a LIRR livery.

PF and Everyone: The LIRR did NOT use the painted windowline on Red Stripe Parlor Cars...

When the decision was made to use a red stripe to identify LIRR P72 parlor cars the stripe was placed BELOW
the windows using a continuous sheet of red reflectorized decal - this change from painting through the center
window line in favor of using lower striping began in the middle 1980s as P72 (and P75) cars were repainted
using blue or red striping for coaches and parlor cars respectively...

LIRR P72 Parlor Car conversions had the text "PARLOR CAR RESERVED SEATS" placed near the vestibule ends
on the outside to be readable by passengers as they boarded trains...

It was easier to repaint coaches in just the single color instead of the extra work necessary to add the window
stripe - the bottom reflectorized decal stripe was a much simpler application...

I was never a fan of the MTA off-white paint which was a tough color to keep clean on the P72 and P75 cars...
I would have preferred the cars to have been painted blue with either a white window stripe on coaches and
a red stripe - as example shown in the WM post - on Parlor Cars...MACTRAXX

Really resembles a ConnDOT Shoreliner. The NJDOT Comet I/Dieseliner from 1970 was based on Pullman's MP75 seven years earlier, so the lineage is apparent.

I agree with the above comment about the off white colors being hard to keep clean.
It would be interesting seeing one in NYS colors with the body blue and the stripe in yellow. Similar to the CNJ scheme.
I think that would have looked very classy. Compared to what they ended up as.
I believe this car was in the lot sold after the electrification of Ronkonkoma and was privately owned and leased/used by steamtown.

But of course, nobody here is paying for the paint job.

When they did receive the red stripe in 1984 (?) the paint shop and booth was closed at Morris Park and the"platinum mist" body color was brushed on over all the grime and didn't last too long.

Frankly who really cares if anyone “here”
Donated to the paint job?
Preservation on LI is dead for what it’s worth. Now prove me wrong.
Show me P72s running on LI rails, not a turntable hop.
Props to OBRM for fighting the tide but it seems to me rail preservation is more successful in other areas as the economy, cost of living, and local Politics on LI kill rail preservation.
I’m glad WMSR is doing Justice to a P72.
The cars in Riverhead are closer to scrap than restoration and the downward spiral continues.

I don’t want to hear about what “were”paying for. Thank you to WMSR for painting it a LI scheme, but frankly they own it they deserve to paint it WM fantasy Scheme and it would be just fine for me.

The stripes were relocated in the 80s to the flank under the window and that’s when the red stripe appeared for the parlor cars.
I don’t believe the bars ever had red stripes or I never saw one with a red stripe.

workextra wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:11 pm I agree with the above comment about the off white colors being hard to keep clean.
It would be interesting seeing one in NYS colors with the body blue and the stripe in yellow. Similar to the CNJ scheme.
I think that would have looked very classy. Compared to what they ended up as.
I believe this car was in the lot sold after the electrification of Ronkonkoma and was privately owned and leased/used by steamtown.

I painted up a set of P72s in HO scale with the brushed steel / thin blue stripe design. Would be interesting to game out something like how the M9s are done up.

Your model looks cool.
You could add a small grey and yellow pinstripe and widen the blue slightly and mimic the m9 wrap color scheme.
That’s only a wrap on the M9 and when they fail, they won’t be replaced.

We have an idea of what the P72 class would look like in Pennsy colors with CMRRs current Paint job.
I personally like that but would
Used the speed lettering and numbering.

But none of those schemes were used on LI, so we can’t like it, we can’t paint one like that. Nope! Not LI.
I had enough with the nonsense, why my efforts been taken elsewhere.

On YouTube “Exploration of an Abandoned Railroad Car in South Central Michigan”, it’s 2957. Just noticed this video.

Pensyfan19 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:39 pm The Western Maryland Scenic Railroad is to paint their LIRR P72 into the red stripe parlor car livery thus making it one of a handful of P72s off of Long Island to be in a LIRR livery.

It may coincidentally be in a LIRR-like scheme but I think the intent was to match the other red-striped passenger cars that have a Western Maryland flavor. The color is continued off that Geep.


photo credit to Adam Kinchok on Flicker.

workextra wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:45 pm Frankly who really cares if anyone “here”
Donated to the paint job?
Preservation on LI is dead for what it’s worth. Now prove me wrong.
Show me P72s running on LI rails, not a turntable hop.
Props to OBRM for fighting the tide but it seems to me rail preservation is more successful in other areas as the economy, cost of living, and local Politics on LI kill rail preservation.
I’m glad WMSR is doing Justice to a P72.
The cars in Riverhead are closer to scrap than restoration and the downward spiral continues.

I don’t want to hear about what “were”paying for. Thank you to WMSR for painting it a LI scheme, but frankly they own it they deserve to paint it WM fantasy Scheme and it would be just fine for me.

The stripes were relocated in the 80s to the flank under the window and that’s when the red stripe appeared for the parlor cars.
I don’t believe the bars ever had red stripes or I never saw one with a red stripe.

Workextra- You stated prove me wrong, so here goes.
You are wrong.
OBRM is not using a P72 for turntable hops. It's a restored N52 wood hack pulled by a GE 25 tonner that came to us dead and is now restored and running.
Oh! and the 1904 turntable was completely disassembled when they arrived on site and is now restored and operating. In fact, OBRM has the distinction of being the only railroad museum in the USA that has an operational turntable on a regularly operating schedule.
Yes, it took 24 years, but every year there are more changes and more things to do.
this year they have the LIRR M7 simulator that now can be operated.
I agree with you that it's not mainline anything but tell me who else is doing a full on restoration of a P54 that can be operated?
Gotta start somewhere!

Minor nit: Danbury Railway Museum has an operating turntable, but they don't turn cars on it. They added a platform for visitors to ride it.

I’m aware of this as are a couple of other museums, however, my statement was that OBRM is the ONLY railroad museum in the USA that operates its turntable on a regular schedule for our guests to actually take a ride on. As far as we know, no one else does this.

The Georgia State Railroad Museum in Savannah all train rides use a turntable to rotate between the passenger loading area and the running line. As far as I can tell, these trips are every weekend throughout the year, and 5-7 days a week in summer.

Maddog,
I didn’t not claim that OBRM “is” using P72s on the turntable hops. I knew all along it was the wooden caboose.

I was stating to show me 2900s /P72s running on LIRR rails, and NOT the Museums turntable hop.

For the record I am very much proud of the long awaited accomplishments demonstrated by the OBRM crew.
And think it’s absolutely incredible that you guys are offering the opportunity for caboose hops, albeit short, it’s better than nothing! So don’t get my previous post in a twist.

Frankly I don’t see anything happening with the remaining p72s on LI that are worthwhile. They’re not running on the main here again, especially with revenue paying passengers. As much as I really
Would love to see that, based on many current factors that I’m privy to, I do not see this happening without significant changes in key positions.

On that note, keep up the good work at OBRM! I look forward to what’s coming next. Might you consider my suggestion to look into some
Kind of roof over the yard? Not a full enclosed space but a covering of sort that will provide some additional protection to the equipment?