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  by CPF66
 
MaineRailfan wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:36 am EMR 910 and 909 will be reworked in almost the same fashion I discussed. Not sure what is going on at Knights right now, I just saw one loader and a dump truck there with no additional track laid. I know they had to cut back some of the places they made cuts because the land was unstable and at risk of causing a slide onto the tracks.

In semi-related news the Millinocket Sub has been bumped back up to 25 aside from a section between Cedar Lake Road and where the CWR starts down by Packard. I am guessing once they redo the crossing at Cedar Lake, from there to the crossing at West Seboeis will be 25 again since CMQ did new rail in that section back around 2017-2018. From there to Packard will likely stay 10 MPH for the time being until new rail is installed. Its nice to see the sub get back to 25 after CP let things go.

Further north MOW season is in full swing. MNR has a tie gang at Sherman, which is redoing every 4th tie and they have a rail gang which is replacing 100 LBS stick with new 115 LBS stick about 10 miles out of Oakfield heading south. New ties have been laid out as far as Ashland and it looked like they are unloading more in the near future. I think they have so far redone all the rail which hadn't been done in years past, between Fort Kent and where they are at now. MNR rented a Herzog train which is being loaded several times a week at Millinocket and has been working with a surfacing gang on MNR and on the Millinocket Sub. The grand plan is for Fort Kent-Millinocket to be up to 25 by years end, as well as the Millinocket Sub aside from that stretch of 10 MPH I mentioned. Fort-Kent to Madawaska will be on next years agenda, as will the PI, Fort Fairfield, and Houlton Subdivisions.

Once the rail gang is to Oakfield they are hopping south and doing rail on curves between Sherman and Millinocket, and are then heading to NBSR to replace some rail around Freddy Jct, and Rooth. Likewise, the southern 10 miles of the Saint Stephen Subdivision will be back to 25 by October, which will allow 506 to make a round trip on two crews instead of two plus a recrew at McAdam. Long term, they will be undercutting quite a bit of track and doing a rehab on the northern portion of the line to get it back to 25 entirely over the next few years, to accommodate the increase in tissue from Woodland.

Some developments are being made on the abandoned line front too. The East Millinocket Sub, which hasn't seen a train beyond Dolby since MMA days, has had some minor MOW work done up to where CMQ used to load logs. Currently they are storing the new MNR chip cars just south of there, but I am wondering if the branch will be rehabbed this year since they redid the crossing at Dolby last week and the renovation of the rail barn at the warehouse wrapped up recently.
I was told yesterday MNR brush cut the line to Caribou and that they have a few customers looking at locating to that area. The main obstacle is the big bridge in Presque Isle which needs structural work and a new deck, which would allow them to load ballast at Lane and transload asphalt emulsion there. Last time they ran there was around 2017. The last train to Caribou ran around 2011-2012 and serviced Dead River before they moved to Presque Isle and AIM scrap. If the information is true, my guess is they will get grants this winter for the bridge and track rehab. I know there were some articles last fall about the biofuel plant at Loring which wanted to bring raw materials in by rail and ship them out via pipeline, however I haven't heard anything on that recently. I sent an email to them a few months ago but haven't heard back yet.
Link to the website they have: https://www.loringenergy.com/

As for more on-topic stuff, EMR is also going to replace some culverts after the washouts a few weeks back. They have also been working with contractors to armor up causeways with rip rap to prevent more washouts.
EMR is also supposed to reinstall the siding at Packard on the Millinocket Subdivision. The Mattawamkeag Subdivision is supposed to get AEI readers which they have installed some on NSBR already. They will also be installing 3 more defect detectors at Forest City, Kirby, and Hardy Pond. The one at Forest City and Hardy Pond will be solar powered since there isn't any power nearby. As for the work on the Millinocket Subdivision, they have removed all but 11-12 miles of speed restrictions. The remaining ones will need to have rail installed, since the existing 100 and 112 LBS rail from the 40's has defects due to poor roadbed conditions. Which when CP owned the line, had they kept up with the maintenance the rail in that stretch would have still been serviceable.
  by NHV 669
 
120 didn't run yesterday, no 121 this morning.
  by MaineRailfan
 
CN9634 wrote:Project scope:

https://www1.maine.gov/mdot/grants/cris ... 20Work.pdf

This project is not yet awarded, the award annoucenments are expected in Sept/Oct timeframe.
The DD's and AEI's are being done now, they have the relay cabinets sitting on pallets at Danforth.
  by KuBand12
 
MaineRailfan wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:57 pm
CN9634 wrote:Project scope:

https://www1.maine.gov/mdot/grants/cris ... 20Work.pdf

This project is not yet awarded, the award annoucenments are expected in Sept/Oct timeframe.
The DD's and AEI's are being done now, they have the relay cabinets sitting on pallets at Danforth.
According to the linked pdf, they have to wait until the project is awarded before installing that - if they expect to be reimbursed.

Page 10, Quote:
"6.6. Pre-Award Costs
None. Consistent with 2 C.F.R. part 200, costs incurred before the date of this Agreement are not
allowable costs under this award. FRA will neither reimburse those costs under this award nor consider
them as a non-Federal cost-sharing contribution to this award."

If that stuff is part of this project, they are probably waiting for the award announcement. That is if I understand the legalese properly.
  by MaineRailfan
 
Or they are just paying for it out of pocket. A lot of the issues they have involve the trains not being blocked in the correct order off of CPKC or Saint John. With the AEI readers in the US and Canada, that gives them enough time to send updated lists to Customs before they get there, which equates to less cars getting kicked out at Vanceboro and fewer delays.
  by NHV 669
 
120 was into Greenville Jct. at 20:52 with two CP GEVOs, 74 wells/110 containers, 36 mixed freight (4 loaded autoracks), 61 empty wells.

Blocking issues for sure throughout this train, as seen with this hopper between two stacks:
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  by NHV 669
 
121 was into Greenville Jct. at 09:12 with 8799/9803, 34 mixed freight, 58 wells/123 containers, KCS 4582 (DPU), 82 wells/148 containers, 6 empty autoracks.

[Edited at 18:07]

120 was into Greenville Jct. at 17:25 with KCS 4786/CP 7054, 67 wells/114 containers, 78 empty wells.
  by MaineRailfan
 
NHV 669 wrote:120 was into Greenville Jct. at 20:52 with two CP GEVOs, 74 wells/110 containers, 36 mixed freight (4 loaded autoracks), 61 empty wells.

Blocking issues for sure throughout this train, as seen with this hopper between two stacks:
Screenshot_20240723_205348_YouTube.jpg
That's been a constant issue with CPKC. Then EMR has to re-block an entire train, normally from the rear forward which means the head end is normally out between Route 11 and the Bypass. I have been told depending on how much re-blocking is done, it can render the CPKC brake slips useless. Causing EMR mechanical to dispatch a car knocker from Millinocket who has to come down and inspect the train and issue a new slip before they can go to Canada.
During CMQ, blocking issues weren't as common since the CP traffic was re-blocked at Farnham and depending on when it got to Brownville Jct, the CMQ switcher would do that work. If EMR came across major blocking issues, normally they would pull the pin there and leave the screwed up stuff behind. That lasted into CP and seems to have ended about 2021.
  by NHV 669
 
No 121 this morning.

120 was into Greenville Jct. at 13:37 with CP 8755/KCS 4802, 53 wells/88 containers, 6 empty wells, 51 mixed freight (9 loaded autoracks). Key train.
  by NHV 669
 
121 was into Greenville Jct. at 09:21 with KCS 4786/CP 7054, 34 mixed freight, 50 wells/108 containers, KCS 4802 (DPU), 61 wells/109 containers, 28 mixed freight (12 empty autoracks), 6 side dumps.
  by NHV 669
 
No 120 yesterday, no 121 this morning.

120 was into Greenville Jct. at 16:00 with CP 8809/KCS 4765, 49 mixed freight (12 loaded autoracks), 84 wells/107 containers, one empty well.
  by NHV 669
 
121 was into Greenville Jct. at 08:11 with KCS 4765/ CP 8809, 36 mixed freight, 23 wells/42 containers, CP 8755 (DPU), 42 wells/82 containers, 12 mixed freight (4 empty autoracks).
  by MaineRailfan
 
Took a look this week, still no progress at Knights. EMR tie gang jumped to the Danforth area I believe to aid in the washout repairs there, still lots of ties between there and Adams.
EMR is doing surfacing work on the Millinocket Sub, I didn't check but my guess is the crossing at Cedar Lake was replaced this week since they had the equipment all set out last weekend.
I will be doing another trip to MNR in a few weeks to check out the progress there.
The DOT posted a few photos of the Oakfield Yard bridge replacement project as well:
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=879 ... 7037562151
  by NHV 669
 
No 120 yesterday, no 121 this morning. Today's 120 departed Farnham around 05:00
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