Discussion relating to the operations of MTA MetroNorth Railroad including west of Hudson operations and discussion of CtDOT sponsored rail operations such as Shore Line East and the Springfield to New Haven Hartford Line

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  by bingdude
Is there a Con-Ed steam vent at GCT between tracks 40 and 41? Or just a broken pipe? Lots of times there is a plume of steam there from some rusty pipes (someone recently put bags of sand over the opening). In the Summer it makes things more than muggy down there. Winter it just gets foggy.

  by Terminal Proceed
It's most likely a steam leak. You would be AMAZED at the amount of steam leaking in the Madsion Ave Yard. So much so that you can't even see the ceiling.

  by Noel Weaver
This situation is not at all hard to believe. During my time in New York
working out of Grand Central we still had a good number of trains that
were heated by steam and in cold weather these cars had to be put on
ground steam at GCT. Steam everywhere at that time. Much of our
activity was at 49th Street Engine House and the engine crews reported
there too. We used to walk down the track 23/24 platform most of the
time although we could also walk up or down the track 22 platform to get
there too. Often we would walk through clouds of steam right on the
Even back in the 1980's where there was not very much steam heated
equipment still in service, Grand Central was also plagued with an
excessive number of water leaks from every possible location. During the
times when there were water shortages in the NYC reservoirs, thousands
of gallons every day were wasted away at GCT in water leaks.
Over the years there has been lots of wasted energy and resources in and
around Grand Central Terminal.
Noel Weaver

  by DutchRailnut
Yup area around 38>41 needs work, but since the area under it, and piping etc are all gone be worked on as part of ESA it is easer now just to let it leak till new LIRR terminal is getting build.

  by Clean Cab
There are hundreds of miles of steam lines that run all throughout GCT and the surrounding buildings, so it's not too surprising that a few leaks might pop up from time to time.

  by JoeG
Are those steam pipes still wrapped in asbestos, or has that been removed?

  by Clean Cab
Almost all of the asbestos has been removed from the pipes that are in plain sight, or that can be in reach of people. It would be impossible to remove it from every inch of the steam pipes.