PVL passing sidings/off-peak trains

Discussion related to New Jersey Transit rail and light rail operations.

Moderators: Tadman, nick11a, ACeInTheHole, Kaback9

Post Reply
Steve F45
Posts: 4946
Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:08 am
Location: New Milford,NJ

PVL passing sidings/off-peak trains

Post by Steve F45 » Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:28 pm

Yesterday while going over the Main Line on Route 3 westbound, I noticed that there was a double siding turnoff coming off of the Main Line/PVL. It's on the westbound side track and originally had one siding off it, but now there's two tracks. I can't find a place along the tracks to see it unless you decide to walk the tracks. Does anyone know if there are customers that still use a siding down in that industrial park?

Also, does anyone know where the sports complex switch would be located when its built?

NJT Rider
Posts: 239
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:51 pm

Post by NJT Rider » Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:49 pm

I believe that this is the eastern end of the E. Rutherford Passing Siding on the PVL. The second switch as of Friday has not been installed, but the ties are down and rails are begining to be laid.

Steve F45
Posts: 4946
Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:08 am
Location: New Milford,NJ

Post by Steve F45 » Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:55 pm

Yea i drove past it today checking things out. What i saw is the turn off for the pvl from the main. But they have it all dug up from pretty much the turn off along lowes to paterson plank road. Not sure if they're just getting the ground prepped for track or not. Kinda confusing as to whats going on along that portion. But the double track is down from paterson plk road with new crossings north towards woodridge. This is where its quite confusing. I drove down that side street just south of woodridge station and they have new ties/track down with a spike machine on the tracks but its hard to see whats the new siding and whats the old siding. They have all these switches in place but its very confusing for me. Will it be double tracked from woodridge station southward to the main/pvl connection?

Steve F45
Posts: 4946
Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:08 am
Location: New Milford,NJ

Post by Steve F45 » Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:03 pm

Checked out the work today, alot has been made since i last saw it. The second turn off from the main line is in place but no switch work. The second siding looks to be 80% done from woodridge station all the way to the main line, with some gaps here and there. Hackensack and Hasbrouck heights haven't changed.

One thing i noticed at paterson plk rd is the rails are alot thinner and smaller then the regular rails. Why is this?

Steve F45
Posts: 4946
Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:08 am
Location: New Milford,NJ

Post by Steve F45 » Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:03 pm

i noticed today when looking for the circus train that at the union street crossing near BJ's that they have installed a 3rd siding/passing track. Its on the west side of the main track. Its only about maybe 100ft long and looks like it was done today.

Politburo

rails

Post by Politburo » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:18 pm

I'd imagine the rails are smaller to save money. Steel ain't cheap. Since it's just a passing siding, the rails don't need to have the same durability, etc. Just a guess, though.

Sirsonic
Posts: 1705
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:35 pm
Location: CP-Late
Contact:

Post by Sirsonic » Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:21 am

2005Vdub wrote:i noticed today when looking for the circus train that at the union street crossing near BJ's that they have installed a 3rd siding/passing track. Its on the west side of the main track. Its only about maybe 100ft long and looks like it was done today.


Most likely its just a pannel of track waiting to be installed.
Proven Theory #2 - If you don't work for the railroad, you don't know more than the people who do, no matter how many years you've hung around the tracks, or how well you think you understand railroading.

Rest in peace Jtgshu.

Steve F45
Posts: 4946
Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:08 am
Location: New Milford,NJ

Post by Steve F45 » Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:28 pm

Sirsonic wrote:
2005Vdub wrote:i noticed today when looking for the circus train that at the union street crossing near BJ's that they have installed a 3rd siding/passing track. Its on the west side of the main track. Its only about maybe 100ft long and looks like it was done today.


Most likely its just a pannel of track waiting to be installed.



I'll check again today, but this was pretty long and it looked set to me. But i'll double check.

and the crews were out today at the franklin ave crossing doing some work on the passing track.

Steve F45
Posts: 4946
Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:08 am
Location: New Milford,NJ

Post by Steve F45 » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:52 pm

I down union ave again the other day, its just track waiting to go in. They had it stacked 3 rows high. Top row was wooden ties, rest concrete. Would those be used for the crossing?

northjerseybuff
Posts: 2593
Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:20 pm

Post by northjerseybuff » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:57 am

ok..i'm still confused..how will this tie in with the new meadowlands station? i thought the entire line was going to go through the new sports complex? I asked this question a few months ago..it looked on the plans like the very south end of the PVL would be eliminated to swing through the stadium and come back in somewhere near rt3??

Irish Chieftain

Post by Irish Chieftain » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:42 pm

The entire PVL is not being rerouted via the Meadowlands/Xanadu at all.

As mentioned in other posts, the spur is but part of a (stillborn?) proposal to link the West Shore Line with Secaucus/Hoboken.

Steve F45
Posts: 4946
Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:08 am
Location: New Milford,NJ

Post by Steve F45 » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:41 pm

the sports complex station is just a spur correct IC? Not all trains would be going to it.

northjerseybuff
Posts: 2593
Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:20 pm

Post by northjerseybuff » Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:00 pm

Oh ok..this makes more sense now..so the spur will diverge off the PVL or main/bergen and end at the meadowlands. This will be a shuttle train type service.
So with the intense work on the sidings on the PVL..I still say they'll be done by July 31 st..the latest.

nick11a
Posts: 9759
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:28 pm
Location: North Central Jersey
Contact:

Post by nick11a » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:38 pm

northjerseybuff wrote:Oh ok..this makes more sense now..so the spur will diverge off the PVL or main/bergen and end at the meadowlands. This will be a shuttle train type service.
So with the intense work on the sidings on the PVL..I still say they'll be done by July 31 st..the latest.


Plus, you got to allow time for automating the interlocking, installing the new signal systems, testing and all of that jazz.
~Nick O.: Moderator: NJT Rail

Moderator of the "widely popular" NJT Rail Forum! What once was first is now seventh!

Frogger

Post by Frogger » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:04 pm

northjerseybuff wrote:Oh ok..this makes more sense now..so the spur will diverge off the PVL or main/bergen and end at the meadowlands. This will be a shuttle train type service.
So with the intense work on the sidings on the PVL..I still say they'll be done by July 31 st..the latest.


From what I've heard "local" PVL trains will run the spur but MN expresses won't. IMO a Hoboken to Meadowlands DMU shuttle would make the most sense. NJT wants to buy from DMU's this would be a perfect test bed (not the Northern Branch).

Post Reply

Return to “New Jersey Transit NJT Rail and Light Rail LRT”