Northport signals and trackage.

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Teutobergerwald
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Northport signals and trackage.

Post by Teutobergerwald » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:35 pm

Recently saw an old picture of Northport station, pre-1955 end of steam, with two tracks through the station, and spurs visible branching off both tracks in the picture, including a spur serving Karp's Hardware. Karp's is still in business today, but no spur serving it anymore. The only freight to be seen these days is the once a week four to six combination of boxcars & flatcars for Kleet Lumber in Huntington, which first comes to Northport to use the siding east of the station to run-around the train and pull it back west to push it into Kleet.

Anyway, when did the freight service to customers in & near Northport Station end, and when was the trackage through the station reduced to one track, with the switch and siding relocated just east of the crossing of Laurel Rd? Were the signals at Northport ever PRR-style position light signals, or always the pedestal signals visible at both ends of the siding east of the Laurel Rd crossing? Thanks!
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Post by northpit » Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:29 am

there was also a switch west of northport station to a long spur that served a lumber yard on 25a in northport
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Post by milepost39 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:07 am

Yeah I was the one who posted that. The photo came from the public library website. To the south of the station across the tracks along 10th avenue (west of Karps) was the Soper Pickle works. It was served by a spur. It burned down in 1961 and was finally demolished in 1966 to make way for the current parking lot. To the immediate west of the station was a freight depot and a yard. I could never get an answer, but I wonder if some of that trackage remained from when there was a trolley car barn there, and repurposed later for freight? Aerial photos show by 1966 this was all gone, to be replaced by the current parking lot. I assume the second track was cut back at this time also.

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Re: Northport signals and trackage.

Post by alchemist » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:35 pm

Mmmmmmmmm Sauerkraut! Soper was later Rothman. In the 1950's when I spent summers in that area you could buy plastic bags of Rothman sauerkraut in many local food stores. While waiting for a train at Northport you got a good whiff of kraut if the wind was from the west.
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Re: Northport signals and trackage.

Post by nyandw » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:56 pm

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Re: Northport signals and trackage.

Post by Teutobergerwald » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:20 am

Great map!!!!!!! Thank you. It appears, back in the day, before the siding was snipped back to just east of the crossing in ENPT, that there were PRR-style signals. Hmmmm....
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Post by Backshophoss » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:03 am

The P/L signal was the Northport Manual block signal,not sure if there was a Block Limit signal mounted on the same mast if
Northport was a part time block station on the Port Jeff branch at some point in time before it was closed and Duke passing siding appeared.

All that's left there is Northport's high level platform at present.

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Post by alchemist » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:47 pm

It's a long, long time ago, but I seem to remember a semaphore signal close to the station building back in the 1950s. Would that have been a train order signal?
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Re: Northport signals and trackage.

Post by milepost39 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:45 am

Aerial view 1953 from Historic Aerials. By 1966 the next available, the yard is gone.
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Post by ExCon90 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:49 pm

alchemist wrote:It's a long, long time ago, but I seem to remember a semaphore signal close to the station building back in the 1950s. Would that have been a train order signal?
Based on standard LIRR practice it would most likely have been a manual block signal, and with a round-end blade on the arm. The 1957 track plan posted by nyandw shows two P/L signals opposite each other, each governing movement in one direction; they could have replaced two semaphores at the same location.

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