At Dover: why do trains go to the yard, not back to NY?

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At Dover: why do trains go to the yard, not back to NY?

Post by SouthernRailway » Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:40 pm

Each time I've taken NJ Transit to Dover, which is at the end of the line, the train that arrives from NY immediately goes to the yard, and a new train comes from the yard, picks up passengers at Dover and heads to NY.

Why have trains at the end of the line head to the yard, with a new train starting in the yard and picking up passengers?

Wouldn't it be more efficient for trains that arrive at end stations such as Dover to just stop at the station and then go back to NY?

It only takes a few minutes for the train to head to the yard and a new train to start from the yard, go to the station and pick up passengers, but it still seems like a waste.

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Re: At Dover: why do trains go to the yard, not back to NY?

Post by DutchRailnut » Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:55 pm

could it be need for servicing ? fuel/bathrooms /cleaning .
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Re: At Dover: why do trains go to the yard, not back to NY?

Post by Backshophoss » Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:13 pm

Except at NY Penn,NJT turns the train in the yard,instead of a quick change ends and go,Dover is a NJT crew base,and that crew may be done and going
off duty,also give the coach cleaning crew a chance for a quick sweep and trash dump off.
Better to swap a set out at a yard any way,if there're bad order cars that need to be set out.

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Re: At Dover: why do trains go to the yard, not back to NY?

Post by GSC » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:28 am

Not knowing the scheduling, maybe another train set was needed to be there for the next eastbound run, without waiting for a return train from NYP.
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Re: At Dover: why do trains go to the yard, not back to NY?

Post by kilroy » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:16 pm

Also, train sets are not locked onto one line. The next train out might have a set that is required to cover trains on another line.
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Re: At Dover: why do trains go to the yard, not back to NY?

Post by R36 Combine Coach » Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:25 pm

kilroy wrote:Also, train sets are not locked onto one line. The next train out might have a set that is required to cover trains on another line.
Indeed true with NYP service. NEC/NJCL/M&E/Montclair trainsets are rotated.
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Re: At Dover: why do trains go to the yard, not back to NY?

Post by eolesen » Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:39 pm

Nothing says "ride me" like a lav that hasn't been serviced in over 24 hours...

When equipment is immediately turned, lavs don't get dumped.

Multiply that times multiple turn & burn's during the day, and you eventually have full tanks... and that's going to require a trip to the yard. You don't want that done in the terminal/station. "Stuff" inevitably spills...

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Re: At Dover: why do trains go to the yard, not back to NY?

Post by JasW » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:26 am

eolesen wrote:Nothing says "ride me" like a lav that hasn't been serviced in over 24 hours...

When equipment is immediately turned, lavs don't get dumped.

Multiply that times multiple turn & burn's during the day, and you eventually have full tanks... and that's going to require a trip to the yard. You don't want that done in the terminal/station. "Stuff" inevitably spills...
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Re: At Dover: why do trains go to the yard, not back to NY?

Post by TDowling » Wed May 22, 2019 10:30 pm

Are you referring to the Lackawanna electrics? Those were built with quality

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Re: At Dover: why do trains go to the yard, not back to NY?

Post by ExCon90 » Thu May 23, 2019 2:51 pm

TDowling wrote:Are you referring to the Lackawanna electrics? Those were built with quality
And waste disposal took place en route on a current basis, thus saving time at terminals. Couldn't do that today ...

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Re: At Dover: why do trains go to the yard, not back to NY?

Post by DutchRailnut » Thu May 23, 2019 4:31 pm

sure the nimbies and EPA would love sh*t on the rail.
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