A QUESTION REGARDING THE KCS F-40-PH.............

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A QUESTION REGARDING THE KCS F-40-PH.............

Post by metra 613 » Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:23 pm

Hello does anyone know if kcs is running the f40c yet?

AmtrakFan

Post by AmtrakFan » Sat Apr 23, 2005 8:49 am

No they won't be because of gearing issues.

TerryC

Post by TerryC » Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:40 pm


AmtrakFan

Post by AmtrakFan » Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:14 pm


Yes they do Terry.

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Post by F40CFan » Thu May 19, 2005 3:07 pm

Any updates? Are they still being regeared by Helm?

Amtrak31

F40C's

Post by Amtrak31 » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:01 pm

F40CFan, I hear they will be regeared by Helm.

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Post by F40CFan » Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:43 am

Thanks. Any idea on a timetable. KCS was supposed to use them until fall when new power arrives. If they don't get regeared soon, there's no purpose in doing it.

Realityrail

Post by Realityrail » Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:29 pm

Helm was offering a great short term lease rate to KCS. When KCS announced that the units needed to be regeared at Helm's expense, Helm "busted" the deal.

The last news I heard is that the units are stored pending a lease, or dismantling for parts.

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Post by F40CFan » Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:55 pm

Thanks for the update.

TerryC

Post by TerryC » Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:39 pm

So the units seem up for grabs? Would Helm Leasing sell these to another railroad if it was for their scrap value or for their running value?

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AmtrakFan

Post by AmtrakFan » Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:59 pm

Terry,
You aren't being pessmitic they would be up for grabs.

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Post by F40CFan » Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:01 pm

What about 610 in Dixmore. Anyone hear anything about that one?

TerryC

Post by TerryC » Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:46 am

Here is a photo of (NRE) 610 on 12-11-2004.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... x?id=76454
keep asking keep learning


Thank you AmtrakFan.


It is What not Whast, metra 613.

Amtrak31

Post by Amtrak31 » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:02 pm

Very cool picture. A friend of mine took that photo. Lots of good stuff at NRE! :-)

CabooseKid

Post by CabooseKid » Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:59 pm

Rumor has it these are the engines that KCS sent to it subsidary Panama Canal Railroad in Panama, have not see any pics of them down there or confirmed that rumor. But, I do know that if that is the case that regearing is also a gage adjustment since PCRR is Broad Gage (5'0"). I know that they use F40PH on the line right now.

http://www.trains.com/Content/Dynamic/A ... 6yfxri.asp


http://www.trainweb.org/panama/

trivia... the color scheme on the F40's are the same one as where on the E's that pulled The Southern Belle

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