• Feds to Investigate MBTA Safety

  • Discussion relating to commuter rail, light rail, and subway operations of the MBTA.
Discussion relating to commuter rail, light rail, and subway operations of the MBTA.

Moderators: CRail, sery2831

  by BandA
 
In 2019, they fired the MBTA fired the guy in charge of safety, Ron Nickle. After he filed a whistleblower complaint with the feds. https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/ ... story.html Apparently he had a "demeaning" attitude.
Governor Charlie Baker on Monday stood by the MBTA’s decision to fire its former safety official, a longtime executive who alleged he was retaliated against for aggressively flagging safety hazards and pushing leaders to be more transparent about high-profile mishaps.
and https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/ ... story.html

Apparently, Mr Nickle wasn't the problem. And if I had a nickel for every derailment...
  by BandA
 
CRail wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:59 pm
BandA wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:19 pm I thought in the 2015 incident the operator Jerry-rigged the deadman, so either they failed to un-rig the deadman or the deadman switch was defective and they never fixed it!
Neither is the case. The deadman wasn't "rigged," it was held down. The train was not under power as it rolled, the fact that 01502 was the lead car again is nothing but a coincidence.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/ ... story.html
Nickle’s statement said he was told repeatedly to avoid blaming systemic problems for safety violations that affected commutes. When a Red Line train ran along the tracks without a driver in December 2015, MBTA officials revealed that an employee had jury-rigged a cord around the train’s throttle to override safety controls.
Throttle control implies power being applied, but I could be wrong.

{OT} - jury-rigged is more correkt than Jerry-rigged. Jury is from some unknown nautical usage for temporary. jerry is from unknown 19th century (Jerry-built = shoddy) and from WWI/II derogatory British name for a German. Jury-rigged apparently has nothing to do with rigging a jury.
  by Type7trolley
 
Arborwayfan wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 6:46 pm Apparently there are portable trip arms and the cars do still have trip cocks. See this series of posts from the runaway thread: https://www.railroad.net/post1361481.html#p1361481.
Not only are the trains equipped with tripcocks, motorized trip arms are still used at two locations on the Red Line. One of them is Ashmont Southbound. Does anyone know the second?
  by octr202
 
After years of saying, "At least we're not as bad as Washington..." it feels like the tables are really turning. This morning's installment:

https://universalhub.com/2022/explosion ... ridge-over
  by RenegadeMonster
 
An Orange Line train passenger jumped off a bridge and into the Mystic River and dozens of other passengers evacuated through windows of the MBTA train after it caught on fire on a bridge in Somerville, Massachusetts.
Wow (Jaw drop emoji)
  by RenegadeMonster
 
https://www.wcvb.com/article/orange-lin ... a/40675879#
An Orange Line train passenger jumped off a bridge and into the Mystic River and dozens of other passengers evacuated through windows of the MBTA train after it caught on fire on a bridge in Somerville, Massachusetts.
I'm at a loss for words at this part of the story...
  by west point
 
New cars or old? The flashes were probably shorting out something. This is bad for the T. Something about the T Maintenance of Orange line really needs investigation.
  by BandA
 
The T is on 🔥! T management is on 🔥! MassDOT is on 🔥! Massachusetts government is on 🔥!
Must be due to global warming.
  by TurningOfTheWheel
 
I'm sure Gov. Baker and the state legislature will act in good faith and solve the root problem here instead of using this as an excuse to further defund the system.
  by Disney Guy
 
Report on cause. A piece (a sill) fell off of the side of the car and shorted against the third rail.

A similar incident happened a few years ago on the Orange line, in a subway station . A piece fell off one train but the short and fire happened when the next train came along.

Unlike in the previous incident where it was about two feet from the windowsill to the platform,, it was about six feet from the windowsill to the ties below on the bridge.

If the train had not already stopped, if someone pulled the emergency handle to unlatch the end door to migrate into the next car, the train will stop. The operator has to go through a number of checks typically ending up walking the full length of the train before s/he can move the train. (S/he and on-ground personnel would also have to make sure any persons on the track nearby had moved to a safe location and the power was restored.)
  by BandA
 
They were lucky nobody was electrocuted jumping from the window onto the third rail. The TV said person(s) were almost hit by train coming in the other direction. And good thing the woman jumping off the bridge didn't hit a rock or something.

They stated that this train had just been inspected recently. If so, are the MBTA inspectors incompetent or lazy/corrupt or pressured by supervisors to release trains without inspecting them?

When they reported a piece of the sill fell off, I didn't hear them say window sill, I assumed some kind of perimeter sill that attaches to the car frame / chassis.
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