Why is the one coach car perfectly upright on the siding track next to the rest of the train? Was it re-railed there by recovery crew or is that where it actually came to stop on its own post crash?
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Back to the photo... I kinda want to see more east of the East Beulow interlock (up in the photo). My thinking is that there's two derailments, one of the back three sleepers (from what I can tell) rolling 270 degrees over, possibly hitting a sensor that false-signaled to the interlock and caused the remaining train to split the interlock. The cause of the first one is east of this photo.I'm kind of thinking the same thing. One of those cars wheels must have hit the ground before coming to the switch which would cause the separation when they hit the switch. The engines and first few cars where on the main so they were not entering the siding. They were probably running at or close to track speed. Better drone pictures to the east of the switch might make it clearer.
Can't wait for the NTSB report, but that's 30 days away...
Saturday’s derailment occurred at about 3:55 p.m. at mileposts 1015.8 between Havre and Shelby on BNSF Railway’s Hi Line Subdivision near the small, unincorporated community of Joplin in north-central Montana, about 150 miles from Helena and about 30 miles south of the Canadian border. BNSF states that the rail line where the derailment occurred was inspected two days prior to the crash.
planespotting wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:09 pm Why is the one coach car perfectly upright on the siding track next to the rest of the train? Was it re-railed there by recovery crew or is that where it actually came to stop on its own post crash?Yes. This photo is clearly taken after they started moving the derailed cars with heavy equipment. One car was rerailed onto the siding, and the 3 rear cars were flipped over their roofs to get them away from the track.
lordsigma12345 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:24 pm NTSB briefing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HydfaXKhHYc . The train was traveling at speed - 78 MPH - not slowed down for switching or anything along those lines.Some takeaways: The NTSB is going to increase pressure on the regulatory/legislative front to require (1) seatbelts be installed and worn by passengers, (2) window size to be substantially reduced, and (3) overhead bag shelving have latching doors similar to aircraft overhead compartment.
lordsigma12345 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:24 pm NTSB briefing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HydfaXKhHYc . The train was traveling at speed - 78 MPH - not slowed down for switching or anything along those lines.Okay, from the briefing:
STrRedWolf wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:32 am Better resolution on the AP photo posted above atCheck out the track at the top of the first photo, spread big time. Wether the replacement track to the right was there before , or has been placed after the accident , IDK.
https://www.wseetonline.com/rs/2021/09/ ... n-braking/